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Ankur Agarwal

Mr. Govind most of what you have written here is just a crap. Being a student of IMT, I have seen and felt it very closely. Starting from the very beginning of your article: 1. Academia: students are just taught to mug up the things and some faculty members are really good but most of them really sucks. marks marks and marks, false class participation where people saying shit get full marks and who listen instead of saying shit suffer with zero marks. Some faculty really sucks........go get some life. 2. Infrastructure: It's not that good too. initial 10 mins of most of the lectures are wasted just in adjusting the mike and projectors. 3. Alumni: yeah true IMT have a very large Alumni base who help in placements...........still more than 7000 alumni are not able to get 500 students placed.......seems their task is only to place placecomm,alcom,IRC,culcom and Sawc members. 4. Exchange program: It's good .....but everything seems to be fixed , while good colleges are assigned to club and committee members only.........internal politics prevails and doesn't benefit the deserving candidates. 6. Student life is like hell ....so burdened with place com openhouse and lectures where they do metal harassment and threaten to debar from placements each and every time they get an opportunity. place com really do bullshit. they show that placement processes are fair but never reveal the short listing criteria because that will reveal their real stuff. Students have the right to know why they were not shortlisted while many f****** students who don't know anything but just because they are a part of some club or committee get shortlisted. Rest of the things are just adding crap to ...................... IMT s****..........students are frustrated..........don't do bull shit Mr. Govind.......you know it very well what's the reality..............don't do it just to add writing skills in your CV.

6 Oct 2014, 02.34 PM

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Jibak Sahu

"Dream is not the thing you see in sleep but is that thing that doesn't let you sleep"... My life. My rules. My way.

Proud of you, Ankur. As a future alumnus of IMT, you're setting a fine example for your peers and juniors to follow.

6 Oct 2014, 03.20 PM |

Ankur Agrawal

Hi Mr. Ankur "Agarwal" before using my name kindly get your facts right. a) I spell my name as "Agrawal" b) I myself am a part of a committee c) I dont use "....." d) Kindly use your name unless you haven't been given one And please stop blaming the process just 'coz you are not competent enough !! :)

6 Oct 2014, 07.08 PM |

Karishma Hans

As another student at IMT, while I don’t share Govind’s rosy view, I still find your comments (the apparently fake Ankur Agarwal) very offensive to both this college and the students here. I find it sad that you’d disparage your peers at IMT and the work that they do in such a fashion, and also mildly insulting that you couldn’t even bother to do this well. I honestly believe that anyone claiming to be a judge of the faculty here, ought to be in a position to put forth a coherent argument as to what their perceived shortcomings are. Since “some faculty members really sucks” doesn’t actually count as constructive criticism, I’d recommend that you introspect and evaluate what you find so objectionable with the professors and the methodology followed here. Mocking people for participating in class has unfortunately become quite the rage these days. However, there are students, myself included, who believe that peer to peer learning is one of the reasons they came to B-school and that class participation is a natural extension of that. Anyone who thinks other students are wasting his time by participating in class, ought to jump in and share his superior wisdom, instead of posting whiny, poorly articulated comments on public forums, that reflects badly on the rest of us as well. I don’t think the baseless allegation of nepotism and the incredibly silly one of mike adjustments even warrants a reply, so I’ll pass in the hope that you yourself can see how ridiculous you’re being. I will admit that everything is not perfect here, but there are many of us who are doing all we can to better the system, and grow and improve. The results have been remarkable so far. If anyone doesn’t want to help arriving at a solution, that’s okay, but the least he can do is not actively contribute to it.

7 Oct 2014, 05.52 PM |

Gaurav Sharma

All Good!

BC.. Ganja Kahan hai isme?

6 Oct 2014, 11.44 PM

Govind Agarwal

Final year management student at IMT Ghaziabad.

@Ankur Agarwal(the fake one) : I would seriously advise you to have a glass of cold water, before I say anything else. Your language and tone show you in real need of the same. High blood pressure is a bad thing and so is unnecessary criticism of one’s own institute. If I were to talk about the first point you made here, well, I could anyday vouche for the fact that I wasn’t taught to mug up a single thing at IMT. Judging faculty members is too high a proposition for a student, and using obscene words in that regard is blasphemy. Class particiaption. Again, are you qualified enough to judge your parallels in terms of what they speak? And are you qualified enough to question the judgement of the faculty members? A deep introspection is due on your part, is what I feel. Coming to infra, I guess you must be aware that an electronic device must be switched ON before it can be used. Besides, I haven’t seen 10 minutes being wasted everytime in every lecture, and forming such a strong generic opinion on one-off incidents, can at best be termed – ‘naivety’. Regarding the point you have made about the Alumni of the institute, I would advise you to go through that part of the dissertation again. If one were to decipher the same, it talks about capacity building through ‘guest lectures, workshops, mentoring programs and short term projects’. Does it even mention the word – ‘Placements’? I did not even make that point and you are arguing on it! And I really do not understand how does it become the responsibility of an Alum to get students placed. At best, he could facilitate; but, if the candidate were not deserving, should he be chosen just because an Alum is seated on the opposite side of the table? Would you buy that, in the name of ethics? When you talk of exchange programs and club politics being a part of it, all I can say is, you seriously need to check your facts – with regard to the process and the colleges assigned last year. The natural number system suggests - after 4 comes 5, but nevertheless, regarding your 6th point, about student life - in my 1.5 years here, I haven’t seen Placecomm harass anyone with a metal! Common sense and common knowledge would suggest, that the Placement committee merely acts as a bridge between the students and the corporates. The shortlisting is done by the company and each has its own distinct shortlisting criteria, which is not revealed to even Placecomm, and repeating the same club-committee thing for the Nth time, doesn’t add weight to your arguments. The last part is really saddening mate! Whatever be your personal grievance and whatever be the reason for that grievance, how could you, even in the remotest figments of imagination, use such a strong negative expression for the place where you live, study and grow! Regarding why I wrote the piece - for a change, I agree with you. Yes, I do know the reality and that is precisely why I wrote the article and that is precisely what I wrote in the article! And if I do write a few blogs here and there ( although I do genuinely feel I am far from being called a ‘Writer’ ), what is the harm in putting it up on my CV? I write for the love of writing and that’s how it has always been. On a more solemn note, I thank you for going through the write-up and trying to point out the flaws. Please understand that I have utmost respect for your individuality which is precisely the reason for your perceptions being different rom mine. But when perceptions lead to twisting of facts & figures, publicly, it calls for a grave review, which is precisely the attempt being made here. Hoping for its success. And yeah, IMT does rock! No denying that!

8 Oct 2014, 03.45 AM

Ranbir Singh

A few days while surfing the net, Google presented me the above article. I find it an accurate assessment of the institute by Govind. I served at IMT from March 94 to January 2002 as Chairman PGDCA Program and Information Technology. I may add few things to what Govind wrote: IMT was first among major Institutes to get .EDU domain. Developed its website in 95 with a dedicated leased line from Videsh Sanchar Nigam Limited. The Campus Network Design for IMT consists of the following components: 1. High Speed Multi-Services Enabled Network Infrastructure. 2. Converged Network with ability to support integrated Voice, Video, and Data. 3. Secured and Fast Internet Access. 4. Remote Access capability for network users. 5. IP based Video infrastructure – A unique tool for broadening the ways in which communication can be done and education can be imparted. This type of network did not exist in any institute in India. This model was later implemented at IIT Kharagpur. The network was integrated by IBM using CISCO components at the cost of INR 2.00 crores, having 700 nodes extended to each room of hall of residence. IMT also set up CISCO Network Academy. The 280-hour Cisco Network Academy Program provided course work for a complete range of basic through advanced networking concepts – from pulling cable, through such complex concepts as subnet masking rules and strategies. Through the Academy program, students learn fundamental networking concepts and have a chance to apply their new skills in the project-based, hands-on lab portion of the curriculum. The program was successfully integrated in PGDCA Program and essentials of the Networking offered to MBA System stream. John Chambers wrote to IMT adjudging IMT as the best CISCO Academy in Asia Pacific. I had feedback from students claiming IMT campus among the best. No student need to mug up at IMT. It is pear-to-pear learning apart what students gain from class room learning. Faculty grooming was an important facet of IMT. Apart from senior faculty members,young people joined IMT as assistant Professors completed their PhD and promoted to Professors. Sanjeev Gupta, Kamna Malik, Reema Khurana are such example. Poonam Garg, A.M. Shorie, Reema Khurana wee sent for professional training in their areas at IMT expenses. AC class rooms, LCD Projectors etc.are not worth mentioning. Prof.(Colonel) Ranbir Singh 17 Sep 2015

17 Sep 2015, 10.37 AM

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Sanjeev Tyagi

Hi Sir your comments made me remind every thing you did for imt and I witnessed the change happen from green monitors to Ltd to cisco to IBM servers and what not. We proud on you sir and salute your leadership. Please let me know your contact number miss you a lot. Regards Sanjeev Tyagi +919818193319

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Comments
 

Ankur Agarwal

Mr. Govind most of what you have written here is just a crap. Being a student of IMT, I have seen and felt it very closely. Starting from the very beginning of your article: 1. Academia: students are just taught to mug up the things and some faculty members are really good but most of them really sucks. marks marks and marks, false class participation where people saying shit get full marks and who listen instead of saying shit suffer with zero marks. Some faculty really sucks........go get some life. 2. Infrastructure: It's not that good too. initial 10 mins of most of the lectures are wasted just in adjusting the mike and projectors. 3. Alumni: yeah true IMT have a very large Alumni base who help in placements...........still more than 7000 alumni are not able to get 500 students placed.......seems their task is only to place placecomm,alcom,IRC,culcom and Sawc members. 4. Exchange program: It's good .....but everything seems to be fixed , while good colleges are assigned to club and committee members only.........internal politics prevails and doesn't benefit the deserving candidates. 6. Student life is like hell ....so burdened with place com openhouse and lectures where they do metal harassment and threaten to debar from placements each and every time they get an opportunity. place com really do bullshit. they show that placement processes are fair but never reveal the short listing criteria because that will reveal their real stuff. Students have the right to know why they were not shortlisted while many f****** students who don't know anything but just because they are a part of some club or committee get shortlisted. Rest of the things are just adding crap to ...................... IMT s****..........students are frustrated..........don't do bull shit Mr. Govind.......you know it very well what's the reality..............don't do it just to add writing skills in your CV.

6 Oct 2014, 02.34 PM

+Read Replies (3)

Jibak Sahu

"Dream is not the thing you see in sleep but is that thing that doesn't let you sleep"... My life. My rules. My way.

Proud of you, Ankur. As a future alumnus of IMT, you're setting a fine example for your peers and juniors to follow.

6 Oct 2014, 03.20 PM |

Ankur Agrawal

Hi Mr. Ankur "Agarwal" before using my name kindly get your facts right. a) I spell my name as "Agrawal" b) I myself am a part of a committee c) I dont use "....." d) Kindly use your name unless you haven't been given one And please stop blaming the process just 'coz you are not competent enough !! :)

6 Oct 2014, 07.08 PM |

Karishma Hans

As another student at IMT, while I don’t share Govind’s rosy view, I still find your comments (the apparently fake Ankur Agarwal) very offensive to both this college and the students here. I find it sad that you’d disparage your peers at IMT and the work that they do in such a fashion, and also mildly insulting that you couldn’t even bother to do this well. I honestly believe that anyone claiming to be a judge of the faculty here, ought to be in a position to put forth a coherent argument as to what their perceived shortcomings are. Since “some faculty members really sucks” doesn’t actually count as constructive criticism, I’d recommend that you introspect and evaluate what you find so objectionable with the professors and the methodology followed here. Mocking people for participating in class has unfortunately become quite the rage these days. However, there are students, myself included, who believe that peer to peer learning is one of the reasons they came to B-school and that class participation is a natural extension of that. Anyone who thinks other students are wasting his time by participating in class, ought to jump in and share his superior wisdom, instead of posting whiny, poorly articulated comments on public forums, that reflects badly on the rest of us as well. I don’t think the baseless allegation of nepotism and the incredibly silly one of mike adjustments even warrants a reply, so I’ll pass in the hope that you yourself can see how ridiculous you’re being. I will admit that everything is not perfect here, but there are many of us who are doing all we can to better the system, and grow and improve. The results have been remarkable so far. If anyone doesn’t want to help arriving at a solution, that’s okay, but the least he can do is not actively contribute to it.

7 Oct 2014, 05.52 PM |

Gaurav Sharma

All Good!

BC.. Ganja Kahan hai isme?

6 Oct 2014, 11.44 PM

Govind Agarwal

Final year management student at IMT Ghaziabad.

@Ankur Agarwal(the fake one) : I would seriously advise you to have a glass of cold water, before I say anything else. Your language and tone show you in real need of the same. High blood pressure is a bad thing and so is unnecessary criticism of one’s own institute. If I were to talk about the first point you made here, well, I could anyday vouche for the fact that I wasn’t taught to mug up a single thing at IMT. Judging faculty members is too high a proposition for a student, and using obscene words in that regard is blasphemy. Class particiaption. Again, are you qualified enough to judge your parallels in terms of what they speak? And are you qualified enough to question the judgement of the faculty members? A deep introspection is due on your part, is what I feel. Coming to infra, I guess you must be aware that an electronic device must be switched ON before it can be used. Besides, I haven’t seen 10 minutes being wasted everytime in every lecture, and forming such a strong generic opinion on one-off incidents, can at best be termed – ‘naivety’. Regarding the point you have made about the Alumni of the institute, I would advise you to go through that part of the dissertation again. If one were to decipher the same, it talks about capacity building through ‘guest lectures, workshops, mentoring programs and short term projects’. Does it even mention the word – ‘Placements’? I did not even make that point and you are arguing on it! And I really do not understand how does it become the responsibility of an Alum to get students placed. At best, he could facilitate; but, if the candidate were not deserving, should he be chosen just because an Alum is seated on the opposite side of the table? Would you buy that, in the name of ethics? When you talk of exchange programs and club politics being a part of it, all I can say is, you seriously need to check your facts – with regard to the process and the colleges assigned last year. The natural number system suggests - after 4 comes 5, but nevertheless, regarding your 6th point, about student life - in my 1.5 years here, I haven’t seen Placecomm harass anyone with a metal! Common sense and common knowledge would suggest, that the Placement committee merely acts as a bridge between the students and the corporates. The shortlisting is done by the company and each has its own distinct shortlisting criteria, which is not revealed to even Placecomm, and repeating the same club-committee thing for the Nth time, doesn’t add weight to your arguments. The last part is really saddening mate! Whatever be your personal grievance and whatever be the reason for that grievance, how could you, even in the remotest figments of imagination, use such a strong negative expression for the place where you live, study and grow! Regarding why I wrote the piece - for a change, I agree with you. Yes, I do know the reality and that is precisely why I wrote the article and that is precisely what I wrote in the article! And if I do write a few blogs here and there ( although I do genuinely feel I am far from being called a ‘Writer’ ), what is the harm in putting it up on my CV? I write for the love of writing and that’s how it has always been. On a more solemn note, I thank you for going through the write-up and trying to point out the flaws. Please understand that I have utmost respect for your individuality which is precisely the reason for your perceptions being different rom mine. But when perceptions lead to twisting of facts & figures, publicly, it calls for a grave review, which is precisely the attempt being made here. Hoping for its success. And yeah, IMT does rock! No denying that!

8 Oct 2014, 03.45 AM

Ranbir Singh

A few days while surfing the net, Google presented me the above article. I find it an accurate assessment of the institute by Govind. I served at IMT from March 94 to January 2002 as Chairman PGDCA Program and Information Technology. I may add few things to what Govind wrote: IMT was first among major Institutes to get .EDU domain. Developed its website in 95 with a dedicated leased line from Videsh Sanchar Nigam Limited. The Campus Network Design for IMT consists of the following components: 1. High Speed Multi-Services Enabled Network Infrastructure. 2. Converged Network with ability to support integrated Voice, Video, and Data. 3. Secured and Fast Internet Access. 4. Remote Access capability for network users. 5. IP based Video infrastructure – A unique tool for broadening the ways in which communication can be done and education can be imparted. This type of network did not exist in any institute in India. This model was later implemented at IIT Kharagpur. The network was integrated by IBM using CISCO components at the cost of INR 2.00 crores, having 700 nodes extended to each room of hall of residence. IMT also set up CISCO Network Academy. The 280-hour Cisco Network Academy Program provided course work for a complete range of basic through advanced networking concepts – from pulling cable, through such complex concepts as subnet masking rules and strategies. Through the Academy program, students learn fundamental networking concepts and have a chance to apply their new skills in the project-based, hands-on lab portion of the curriculum. The program was successfully integrated in PGDCA Program and essentials of the Networking offered to MBA System stream. John Chambers wrote to IMT adjudging IMT as the best CISCO Academy in Asia Pacific. I had feedback from students claiming IMT campus among the best. No student need to mug up at IMT. It is pear-to-pear learning apart what students gain from class room learning. Faculty grooming was an important facet of IMT. Apart from senior faculty members,young people joined IMT as assistant Professors completed their PhD and promoted to Professors. Sanjeev Gupta, Kamna Malik, Reema Khurana are such example. Poonam Garg, A.M. Shorie, Reema Khurana wee sent for professional training in their areas at IMT expenses. AC class rooms, LCD Projectors etc.are not worth mentioning. Prof.(Colonel) Ranbir Singh 17 Sep 2015

17 Sep 2015, 10.37 AM

+Read Replies (1)

Sanjeev Tyagi

Hi Sir your comments made me remind every thing you did for imt and I witnessed the change happen from green monitors to Ltd to cisco to IBM servers and what not. We proud on you sir and salute your leadership. Please let me know your contact number miss you a lot. Regards Sanjeev Tyagi +919818193319

3 May 2016, 11.24 PM |