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The non-IIM Top BSchools Alumni Report 2013 – Part Two – Stats for Top Companies in FMCG and Technology,E-Commerce,Telecom

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Jagadish

Oh...awesome analysis!!....Can someone tell me how the following conclusion has been arrived at?.. "Aspirants should be advised that traditionally placements at XLRI for the HR programme are better than the placements for the BM programme."

7 May 2013, 01.16 PM

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Well wisher

Comparing placements of HR course with those of BM course is an apple-orange comparison. Nonetheless, the above article is insightful, especially the inferences/conclusions.

7 May 2013, 01.58 PM |

Stop this negativity

arre yaar usne apna analysis kiya..uski marzi..par tum senti kyon ho jaate ho..nai achcha laga toh page pe return mat karo na..negative aur acidic comments dene ka kya matlab h.. :-/

7 May 2013, 02.01 PM |

Insideiim Admin

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These are words of XLRI alumni associated with InsideIIM.com. The BM programme was born in the 1980s. Historically, a lot of companies only visit XLRI for HR roles and not business roles. On LinkedIn, not everyone classifies themselves as HR professionals. Even today, some of the most coveted roles are offered to HRM candidates at XLRI ( For e.g. Novartis) If XLRI agreed to release separate placement reports for BM and HR, the conclusion would be reached by many.

7 May 2013, 02.32 PM |

Jagadish

1. The BM program started in 1968...not 1980s. 2. I agree that during the 1970s & 1980s , a lot of companies would have visited XLRI only for HR roles. But that is not the case anymore. 3. Novartis is a coveted role for which HR students are taken. At the same time,there are companies like BCG that pick BM people only. I am not spreading any negativity. Just mentioning the facts.

7 May 2013, 02.47 PM |

Vijay

Beg to differ here. If my memory serves me right, the BM program was started in 1968. I think an average BM job is as good as the average HR job. But yes, the most coveted ones (such as novartis)goes to the IR guys..But on the other hand, a Carlyle or a Rothschild, whenever they visit campus, would always recruit a BM guy...Wish XL provided the BM/IR split in their placement reports..

7 May 2013, 02.57 PM |

Jagadish

Yes. I too wish XLRI releases separate reports for BM & HR so that people get to know the facts. Till the point we dont do that, this minconception that XLRI is good only at HR placements will remain. But I am surprised by the fact that even insideiim is of the same opinion.

7 May 2013, 03.12 PM |

Insideiim Admin

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There is no misconception that XLRI is only good at HR. XLRI is very good for business management and large majority of students choose XLRI BM over many other IIMs. However, it is tough to dispute that HR placements are not better than BM at XLRI.

7 May 2013, 04.28 PM |

XL HR

tough to dispute ?? U dont have any data point to conclude that do u ?? Hence making faffy comments .... I am an Xler and from HR batch and disagree with u totally based on summer placements of mine and final placement of our seniors... The placements of both BM and Hr are at par ..Infact BM guys have better chance of going to Mckinsey plus TSMG and BCG recruits only from BM and so does cognizant business consulting ....

7 May 2013, 08.14 PM |

sarcasomaniac

Get ur head straight, junior lad !! first sit for ur placements and then comment :) #ur senior !

7 May 2013, 11.06 PM |

XL HR

u cant be my senior ...My seniors were studs and u sound lame :P

7 May 2013, 11.53 PM |

Venkataraman R

The number of SIBM Pune alumni in Castrol is pretty impressive as well, next only to XLRI.

7 May 2013, 03.20 PM

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@InsideIIM

There 10 Alums in Castrol from XLRI and you are saying SIBM number is next only to XLRI. What exactly is your point?

7 May 2013, 05.24 PM |

Observer

If I am not mistaken Coca-Cola India doesn't visit SPJain. I believe the report has accounted for HCCB in its estimate of number of employees in Coca Cola. Having said that, the report is clearly indicator as to how placements are in non IIM B-Schools. Commendable effort by the team to churn out these results.

7 May 2013, 05.00 PM

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@InsideIIM

Dear Observer, Just because a company does not visit a campus does not mean alumni cannot move laterally. There are 5 alumni who are in The Coca-Cola Company

7 May 2013, 05.22 PM |

Observer

Dear Inside IIM, As a former summer intern of the company i believe I have a better understanding of the people at the company and their alma mater. and that is exactly why i'd like to point out that Coca-Cola is dominated by people from XL and FMS. But I daresay we were introduced to more than 5 alums from FMS. I believe people from the company will also testify to this. However since this data has been obtained from LinkedIn, there is a possibility that you must have missed out on a few. However I did not account for lateral movements when I made that comment on SP Jain. Cheers.

8 May 2013, 01.12 AM |

Observer

The same can be said about a few other companies as well. But then again if alums don't update their LinkedIn profiles, there is nothing much that you can do about it.

8 May 2013, 01.07 PM |

AsheX

Why does insideiim not include MICA?

7 May 2013, 07.54 PM

Roy

Why haven't been SCMHRD included? It is doing almost as well if not better than SIBM for sometime now. And for HR, its very comparable to TISS. Leading FMCGs (including HUL,PnG,ITC,Kraft,GSK-CH) visit it every year and pick up numbers.

8 May 2013, 12.44 PM

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@InsideIIM

Actually, Symbiosis numbers above include SCMHRD. We realized that LinkedIn clubs all Symbi institutes under one umbrella

8 May 2013, 04.58 PM |

Roy

Hmmm.. i guess thts where both SIBM and SCMHRD loses out. They are much better than any of th other symb insti, but their brand is diluted with Symbiosis written and clubbing all colleges together. Anyways, it would be great if a comparative study in HR done. I am sure XLRI, TISS and SCMHRD will be right up there. Though I believe SIBM, due to it being a very old college, will have people in imp positions too.

9 May 2013, 01.40 PM |

Gooner

When is part 3 coming?

8 May 2013, 08.08 PM

Seeking Info

Considering that several replies go unanswered here in insideiim, I would be really grateful if someone replies to me in detail...... Can all the experienced people here plz give me 1 info --> What is the package offered by the following FMCGs in Marketing & Sales domain the top-14 B-Schools in India?? :o Marico, HUL, J & J, Dabur, Reckitt Benckiser, HCCB, PepsiCo, Red Bull, L'Oreal, Kellogg’s, Godrej & Boyce, Titan, Raymonds & Videocon. o.0 [For e.g- ITC offers 17 CTC, PnG- 17, Airtel- 16+, Colgate Palmolive- 20+ (very very inflated though :p ), GSK- 18, Amazon- 22. Similarly can u plz tell me about the CTC of these? :o ] Someone who knows this, plz plz reply as it's urgent.

13 May 2013, 01.24 AM

Ashish Unadkat

I am a MBA (Marketing) graduate from the Symbiosis Institute of Business Management Pune (SIBM Pune) and currently associated with Pidilite Industries Ltd in their Young Talent Management (YTM) Program. Prior to post-graduation I worked with Larsen & Toubro Limited for a period of 34 months. I have done my graduation in Mechanical Engineering from the Faculty of Technology & Engineering, The M.S.University of Baroda. At the University, I was elected as the President of the Students’ Council, which comprises of 9 council teams and a total of 108 students, working on all aspects of the institute beginning from admission to the placements. I also won various national level competitions representing SIBM Pune; with Asian Paints Canvas and GE Genius being among the prominent ones. At L&T, I worked across different functions of Project Management, Contracts, Marketing and Business Development in Power sector. I started working in the project management function and was responsible for the Mechanical items worth INR 60 crore from its engineering stage to the delivery at site. I was one of the selected few who qualified under the “Management Trainee Scheme (MTS -2010)”. In my tenure as the Marketing and Proposal Executive I got experience of bidding for both the Government and Private Projects. I was one of the initial members of the team in-charge of bidding for projects in Bangladesh. I also participated in bidding for other projects in India and Middle East, alongside participating in the client Meetings, conferences and Front End Marketing Activities. In different capacities I have helped departments optimize business processes, increase performance transparency, reduce cost and expand the business into new territories. I was always rated as “Top Performer” during my tenure there. Specialties Business Intelligence, Project Management, Process Improvement, Marketing, Business Development, Business Strategy Consulting, Claims and Contract management.

The no of alumni in GSK from SIBM Pune would be highest. The count is somewhere around 35 (Just for SIBM Pune). As far as Linkedin trends are considered now you might be able to see data separately for SIBM Pune.

26 Aug 2014, 12.38 AM

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Comments
 

Jagadish

Oh...awesome analysis!!....Can someone tell me how the following conclusion has been arrived at?.. "Aspirants should be advised that traditionally placements at XLRI for the HR programme are better than the placements for the BM programme."

7 May 2013, 01.16 PM

+Read Replies (10)

Well wisher

Comparing placements of HR course with those of BM course is an apple-orange comparison. Nonetheless, the above article is insightful, especially the inferences/conclusions.

7 May 2013, 01.58 PM |

Stop this negativity

arre yaar usne apna analysis kiya..uski marzi..par tum senti kyon ho jaate ho..nai achcha laga toh page pe return mat karo na..negative aur acidic comments dene ka kya matlab h.. :-/

7 May 2013, 02.01 PM |

Insideiim Admin

.

These are words of XLRI alumni associated with InsideIIM.com. The BM programme was born in the 1980s. Historically, a lot of companies only visit XLRI for HR roles and not business roles. On LinkedIn, not everyone classifies themselves as HR professionals. Even today, some of the most coveted roles are offered to HRM candidates at XLRI ( For e.g. Novartis) If XLRI agreed to release separate placement reports for BM and HR, the conclusion would be reached by many.

7 May 2013, 02.32 PM |

Jagadish

1. The BM program started in 1968...not 1980s. 2. I agree that during the 1970s & 1980s , a lot of companies would have visited XLRI only for HR roles. But that is not the case anymore. 3. Novartis is a coveted role for which HR students are taken. At the same time,there are companies like BCG that pick BM people only. I am not spreading any negativity. Just mentioning the facts.

7 May 2013, 02.47 PM |

Vijay

Beg to differ here. If my memory serves me right, the BM program was started in 1968. I think an average BM job is as good as the average HR job. But yes, the most coveted ones (such as novartis)goes to the IR guys..But on the other hand, a Carlyle or a Rothschild, whenever they visit campus, would always recruit a BM guy...Wish XL provided the BM/IR split in their placement reports..

7 May 2013, 02.57 PM |

Jagadish

Yes. I too wish XLRI releases separate reports for BM & HR so that people get to know the facts. Till the point we dont do that, this minconception that XLRI is good only at HR placements will remain. But I am surprised by the fact that even insideiim is of the same opinion.

7 May 2013, 03.12 PM |

Insideiim Admin

.

There is no misconception that XLRI is only good at HR. XLRI is very good for business management and large majority of students choose XLRI BM over many other IIMs. However, it is tough to dispute that HR placements are not better than BM at XLRI.

7 May 2013, 04.28 PM |

XL HR

tough to dispute ?? U dont have any data point to conclude that do u ?? Hence making faffy comments .... I am an Xler and from HR batch and disagree with u totally based on summer placements of mine and final placement of our seniors... The placements of both BM and Hr are at par ..Infact BM guys have better chance of going to Mckinsey plus TSMG and BCG recruits only from BM and so does cognizant business consulting ....

7 May 2013, 08.14 PM |

sarcasomaniac

Get ur head straight, junior lad !! first sit for ur placements and then comment :) #ur senior !

7 May 2013, 11.06 PM |

XL HR

u cant be my senior ...My seniors were studs and u sound lame :P

7 May 2013, 11.53 PM |

Venkataraman R

The number of SIBM Pune alumni in Castrol is pretty impressive as well, next only to XLRI.

7 May 2013, 03.20 PM

+Read Replies (1)

@InsideIIM

There 10 Alums in Castrol from XLRI and you are saying SIBM number is next only to XLRI. What exactly is your point?

7 May 2013, 05.24 PM |

Observer

If I am not mistaken Coca-Cola India doesn't visit SPJain. I believe the report has accounted for HCCB in its estimate of number of employees in Coca Cola. Having said that, the report is clearly indicator as to how placements are in non IIM B-Schools. Commendable effort by the team to churn out these results.

7 May 2013, 05.00 PM

+Read Replies (3)

@InsideIIM

Dear Observer, Just because a company does not visit a campus does not mean alumni cannot move laterally. There are 5 alumni who are in The Coca-Cola Company

7 May 2013, 05.22 PM |

Observer

Dear Inside IIM, As a former summer intern of the company i believe I have a better understanding of the people at the company and their alma mater. and that is exactly why i'd like to point out that Coca-Cola is dominated by people from XL and FMS. But I daresay we were introduced to more than 5 alums from FMS. I believe people from the company will also testify to this. However since this data has been obtained from LinkedIn, there is a possibility that you must have missed out on a few. However I did not account for lateral movements when I made that comment on SP Jain. Cheers.

8 May 2013, 01.12 AM |

Observer

The same can be said about a few other companies as well. But then again if alums don't update their LinkedIn profiles, there is nothing much that you can do about it.

8 May 2013, 01.07 PM |

AsheX

Why does insideiim not include MICA?

7 May 2013, 07.54 PM

Roy

Why haven't been SCMHRD included? It is doing almost as well if not better than SIBM for sometime now. And for HR, its very comparable to TISS. Leading FMCGs (including HUL,PnG,ITC,Kraft,GSK-CH) visit it every year and pick up numbers.

8 May 2013, 12.44 PM

+Read Replies (2)

@InsideIIM

Actually, Symbiosis numbers above include SCMHRD. We realized that LinkedIn clubs all Symbi institutes under one umbrella

8 May 2013, 04.58 PM |

Roy

Hmmm.. i guess thts where both SIBM and SCMHRD loses out. They are much better than any of th other symb insti, but their brand is diluted with Symbiosis written and clubbing all colleges together. Anyways, it would be great if a comparative study in HR done. I am sure XLRI, TISS and SCMHRD will be right up there. Though I believe SIBM, due to it being a very old college, will have people in imp positions too.

9 May 2013, 01.40 PM |

Gooner

When is part 3 coming?

8 May 2013, 08.08 PM

Seeking Info

Considering that several replies go unanswered here in insideiim, I would be really grateful if someone replies to me in detail...... Can all the experienced people here plz give me 1 info --> What is the package offered by the following FMCGs in Marketing & Sales domain the top-14 B-Schools in India?? :o Marico, HUL, J & J, Dabur, Reckitt Benckiser, HCCB, PepsiCo, Red Bull, L'Oreal, Kellogg’s, Godrej & Boyce, Titan, Raymonds & Videocon. o.0 [For e.g- ITC offers 17 CTC, PnG- 17, Airtel- 16+, Colgate Palmolive- 20+ (very very inflated though :p ), GSK- 18, Amazon- 22. Similarly can u plz tell me about the CTC of these? :o ] Someone who knows this, plz plz reply as it's urgent.

13 May 2013, 01.24 AM

Ashish Unadkat

I am a MBA (Marketing) graduate from the Symbiosis Institute of Business Management Pune (SIBM Pune) and currently associated with Pidilite Industries Ltd in their Young Talent Management (YTM) Program. Prior to post-graduation I worked with Larsen & Toubro Limited for a period of 34 months. I have done my graduation in Mechanical Engineering from the Faculty of Technology & Engineering, The M.S.University of Baroda. At the University, I was elected as the President of the Students’ Council, which comprises of 9 council teams and a total of 108 students, working on all aspects of the institute beginning from admission to the placements. I also won various national level competitions representing SIBM Pune; with Asian Paints Canvas and GE Genius being among the prominent ones. At L&T, I worked across different functions of Project Management, Contracts, Marketing and Business Development in Power sector. I started working in the project management function and was responsible for the Mechanical items worth INR 60 crore from its engineering stage to the delivery at site. I was one of the selected few who qualified under the “Management Trainee Scheme (MTS -2010)”. In my tenure as the Marketing and Proposal Executive I got experience of bidding for both the Government and Private Projects. I was one of the initial members of the team in-charge of bidding for projects in Bangladesh. I also participated in bidding for other projects in India and Middle East, alongside participating in the client Meetings, conferences and Front End Marketing Activities. In different capacities I have helped departments optimize business processes, increase performance transparency, reduce cost and expand the business into new territories. I was always rated as “Top Performer” during my tenure there. Specialties Business Intelligence, Project Management, Process Improvement, Marketing, Business Development, Business Strategy Consulting, Claims and Contract management.

The no of alumni in GSK from SIBM Pune would be highest. The count is somewhere around 35 (Just for SIBM Pune). As far as Linkedin trends are considered now you might be able to see data separately for SIBM Pune.

26 Aug 2014, 12.38 AM