The non-IIM Top BSchools Alumni Report 2013 – Part Two – Stats for Top Companies in FMCG and Technology,E-Commerce,Telecom

We have already seen the FMCG, Technology and E-Commerce alumni figures at the older 6 IIMs here.  Let’s do a similar analysis for other top schools in India. The 2012 report can be found here. (HKUST MBA has been excluded from this analysis as it would not make sense to compare a foreign school’s alumni in an Indian context)

(Note : There will be slight numerical discrepancies in the part 1 of the report with parts 2 and 3. It is because the reports are created from different sources within LinkedIn. The objective of this exercise is to study a trend and not to get exact figures.)

Let’s start with FMCG. We have taken 20 companies instead of 15 that we took last year. Let’s jump to the numbers straight away. Please note that since NO FILTER was done for functions in the company, the numbers below include alumni in Sales & Marketing, Operations, IT, Corporate Finance, HR, Others.

Disclaimer : It is user generated data. We cannot vouch for 100% accuracy. But it gives a very clear trend. The numbers below do not include most Class of 2013 graduates as they have not started work/not updated their LinkedIn profiles yet.

Some Observations:

1) ISB is a weak FMCG campus and lends more support to the theory that FMCG companies like to catch them young. Professionals hoping to switch to FMCG/Marketing post-MBA after more than 3 years of work experience need to know that it is going to be tough.

2) 65 of the 314 professionals from XLRI above are from the HR domain. Our experience tells us that the number could be considerably more than 65.  Aspirants should be advised that traditionally placements at XLRI for the HR programme are better than the placements for the BM programme.

3) SPJIMR is the real star in this group. There are alumni across companies. SPJIMR is not as old as FMS or JBIMS and neither has SPJIMR’s batch size been more than 180 until recently. However, as we have seen repeatedly in all kinds of reports, SPJIMR has a loyal set of companies that keep recruiting from that campus. Numbers in a company like P&G are outstanding. (Most of the alumni are in operations/IT)

4) FMS and JBIMS have a strong legacy and always seem to have good number of FMCG companies visiting their campuses. But alumni numbers are not very impressive especially for JBIMS. XLRI and SPJIMR have done better with a similar batch size over the years. Based on the experience of IIM Lucknow, it would not be very audacious to predict that IIM I and IIM K will also eventually start doing better than FMS and JBIMS at FMCG in numerical terms.  This is also aided by the fact that both these IIMs will have bigger batches. By 2018, we predict that alumni in FMCG companies from IIM I and IIM K would be double than those from JBIMS and more than those from FMS.

5) Given that COO of Unilever and CEO of  HUL are from JBIMS, the number of alumni from JBIMS at HUL is quite low.

Looking at some other schools in India not covered by us (yet), we see the following noteworthy figures for specific FMCG companies. Of course, no filters were done for profiles or designation.

– NITIE Mumbai – P & G – 71 Alumni – Most of them, Purchase & Supply Chain managers – Outstanding number

– NMIMS Mumbai –  Unilever – 39 Alumni – Number in the same range as FMS, SPJIMR  and greater than IIM I & K

– NITIE Mumbai – Unilever – 34 Alumni – Number in the same range as FMS, SPJIMR  and greater than IIM I & K

– SIBM/SCMHRD/Other Symbiosis Schools – Unilever – 23 Alumni – Number is greater than both IIM I & K

– IIFT Delhi – Unilever – 18 Alumni – Number is greater than both IIM I & K

 

Let us look at the other important sectors now. Rock star technology and e-commerce names will increasingly dominate placement reports. Electronics and Telecom companies are always important and hiring numbers are steady as they are for FMCG and General Management roles. We listed 15 companies to be analyzed.

Please note that since NO FILTER was done for functions in the company, the numbers below include alumni in Sales & Marketing, Operations, IT, Corporate Finance, HR, Others.

Disclaimer : It is user generated data. We cannot vouch for 100% accuracy. But it gives a very clear trend. The numbers below include professionals who could have done short courses. The numbers below do not include most Class of 2013 graduates as they have not started work/not updated their LinkedIn profiles yet.

 

Some Observations:

1) The story changes completely for ISB when one looks at numbers here. ISB literally owns Google with most business schools in India not even having half the alumni of ISB at Google (IIM C has 36). In general, the performance is exceptional at Google, Microsoft, Amazon.

2) SPJIMR surprises again and trumps IIMs K,I and also FMS and JBIMS.

3) It is interesting to note XLRI’s dominance at Nokia.

4) In general, FMS seems to do well at companies headquartered in the NCR region whether it is Airtel here or Reckitt Benckiser and Pepsi in the FMCG table.

 

Looking at some other schools in India not covered by us (yet), we see the following noteworthy figures for specific companies from the list above companies. Of course, no filters were done for profiles or designation.

– SIBM/SCMHRD/Other Symbiosis Schools has 36 alumni at Microsoft

– NMIMS Mumbai has 30 alumni at Microsoft

(Some of the alumni from these two schools are quite senior at Microsoft. A lot of alumni from Symbiosis are in the HR function.)

 

– Symbiosis International University (SIBM Pune is a part of that) has 74 alumni at Airtel

– NMIMS Mumbai has 59 alumni at Airtel

– MDI Gurgaon has 52 alumni at Airtel

– IIFT Delhi has 36 alumni at Airtel

(Please note that not all of the above numbers reflect alumni recruited via the coveted  Bharti YLP at Airtel.)

 

You may also like to Read :

The non-IIM Top Schools Alumni Report – Part 1 – Locations, Companies and Functions

The non-IIM Top Schools Alumni Report – Part 3 – Banking and Consulting 

The 6 IIMs alumni report 2013 – Part 1 – Locations, Companies and Functions

The 6 IIMs alumni report 2013 – Part 2 – Stats for FMCG and Technology, E-Commerce and Telecom

The 6 IIMs alumni report 2013 – Part 3 – Banking & Consulting

The 6 IIMs alumni reports for 2012 – Part 1Part 2Part 3

The non-IIM Top Business School Alumni reports for 2012 – Part 1Part 2

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24 comments

Jagadish

Oh…awesome analysis!!….Can someone tell me how the following conclusion has been arrived at?..

"Aspirants should be advised that traditionally placements at XLRI for the HR programme are better than the placements for the BM programme."

Well wisher

Comparing placements of HR course with those of BM course is an apple-orange comparison. Nonetheless, the above article is insightful, especially the inferences/conclusions.

Stop this negativity

arre yaar usne apna analysis kiya..uski marzi..par tum senti kyon ho jaate ho..nai achcha laga toh page pe return mat karo na..negative aur acidic comments dene ka kya matlab h.. :-/

insideiim

These are words of XLRI alumni associated with InsideIIM.com. The BM programme was born in the 1980s.

Historically, a lot of companies only visit XLRI for HR roles and not business roles. On LinkedIn, not everyone classifies themselves as HR professionals.

Even today, some of the most coveted roles are offered to HRM candidates at XLRI ( For e.g. Novartis)

If XLRI agreed to release separate placement reports for BM and HR, the conclusion would be reached by many.

Jagadish

1. The BM program started in 1968…not 1980s.
2. I agree that during the 1970s & 1980s , a lot of companies would have visited XLRI only for HR roles. But that is not the case anymore.
3. Novartis is a coveted role for which HR students are taken. At the same time,there are companies like BCG that pick BM people only.

I am not spreading any negativity. Just mentioning the facts.

Vijay

Beg to differ here. If my memory serves me right, the BM program was started in 1968. I think an average BM job is as good as the average HR job. But yes, the most coveted ones (such as novartis)goes to the IR guys..But on the other hand, a Carlyle or a Rothschild, whenever they visit campus, would always recruit a BM guy…Wish XL provided the BM/IR split in their placement reports..

Jagadish

Yes. I too wish XLRI releases separate reports for BM & HR so that people get to know the facts. Till the point we dont do that, this minconception that XLRI is good only at HR placements will remain.
But I am surprised by the fact that even insideiim is of the same opinion.

insideiim

There is no misconception that XLRI is only good at HR. XLRI is very good for business management and large majority of students choose XLRI BM over many other IIMs. However, it is tough to dispute that HR placements are not better than BM at XLRI.

XL HR

tough to dispute ?? U dont have any data point to conclude that do u ?? Hence making faffy comments …. I am an Xler and from HR batch and disagree with u totally based on summer placements of mine and final placement of our seniors…

The placements of both BM and Hr are at par ..Infact BM guys have better chance of going to Mckinsey plus TSMG and BCG recruits only from BM and so does cognizant business consulting ….

sarcasomaniac

Get ur head straight, junior lad !! first sit for ur placements and then comment 🙂

#ur senior !

XL HR

u cant be my senior …My seniors were studs and u sound lame 😛

Venkataraman R

The number of SIBM Pune alumni in Castrol is pretty impressive as well, next only to XLRI.

Observer

If I am not mistaken Coca-Cola India doesn't visit SPJain. I believe the report has accounted for HCCB in its estimate of number of employees in Coca Cola. Having said that, the report is clearly indicator as to how placements are in non IIM B-Schools.

Commendable effort by the team to churn out these results.

@InsideIIM

Dear Observer,

Just because a company does not visit a campus does not mean alumni cannot move laterally. There are 5 alumni who are in The Coca-Cola Company

Observer

Dear Inside IIM, As a former summer intern of the company i believe I have a better understanding of the people at the company and their alma mater. and that is exactly why i'd like to point out that Coca-Cola is dominated by people from XL and FMS. But I daresay we were introduced to more than 5 alums from FMS. I believe people from the company will also testify to this. However since this data has been obtained from LinkedIn, there is a possibility that you must have missed out on a few. However I did not account for lateral movements when I made that comment on SP Jain. Cheers.

Observer

The same can be said about a few other companies as well. But then again if alums don't update their LinkedIn profiles, there is nothing much that you can do about it.

Roy

Why haven't been SCMHRD included? It is doing almost as well if not better than SIBM for sometime now.
And for HR, its very comparable to TISS.
Leading FMCGs (including HUL,PnG,ITC,Kraft,GSK-CH) visit it every year and pick up numbers.

Roy

Hmmm.. i guess thts where both SIBM and SCMHRD loses out. They are much better than any of th other symb insti, but their brand is diluted with Symbiosis written and clubbing all colleges together.
Anyways, it would be great if a comparative study in HR done. I am sure XLRI, TISS and SCMHRD will be right up there. Though I believe SIBM, due to it being a very old college, will have people in imp positions too.

Seeking Info

Considering that several replies go unanswered here in insideiim, I would be really grateful if someone replies to me in detail……

Can all the experienced people here plz give me 1 info –>

What is the package offered by the following FMCGs in Marketing & Sales domain the top-14 B-Schools in India?? 😮
Marico, HUL, J & J, Dabur, Reckitt Benckiser, HCCB, PepsiCo, Red Bull, L'Oreal, Kellogg’s, Godrej & Boyce, Titan, Raymonds & Videocon. o.0

[For e.g- ITC offers 17 CTC, PnG- 17, Airtel- 16+, Colgate Palmolive- 20+ (very very inflated though :p ), GSK- 18, Amazon- 22. Similarly can u plz tell me about the CTC of these? 😮 ]

Someone who knows this, plz plz reply as it's urgent.

Ashish Unadkat

The no of alumni in GSK from SIBM Pune would be highest. The count is somewhere around 35 (Just for SIBM Pune). As far as Linkedin trends are considered now you might be able to see data separately for SIBM Pune.