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Battle 1 : IIM Lucknow vs FMS Delhi – Top business schools in India and their alumni perpetuate a culture of elitism (AGAINST)

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Rohit Kumar

The examples put forward by the team from FMS pointing out to exceptions like Kaku Nakhate and Kalpana Morparia also do not stand because the Indian economy was in a different phase earlier. It was easier to work your way up then. These days without an MBA degree from any of the top schools you won't even stand a chance to be promoted. There is a lot of campus politics in the workplace too and I have experienced it first hand. Why do we have so many people desperately seeking a MBA degree? Simply, because their undergrad degree or MBA from a not-so good bschool will not take them too far (which is why people do double MBAs). Elitism definitely exists and is there for all to see.

3 Aug 2012, 01.06 PM

Rahul

"When the laboratory at CERN employs scientists, to study the Higgs Boson, and not athletes, it does so not out of elitism but out of competence of the individuals in a field." - This is the most stupid argument I read. No one is saying that round pegs need to be in square holes .i.e. no one claims that elitism means not allowing athletes to be employed by CERN. It's a completely irrelevant point to this discussion.

4 Aug 2012, 10.29 AM

Mihir Mehta

The argument that "Top Business Schools have the best brains" can be questioned on most grounds. Till 2005-06 odd when CAT cutoffs were in a pecking order it still made sense since there was some form of objectivity. So if you had a call from say IIM A you were guaranteed one from LIK for sure. These days, because of absolutely weird selection criteria, there is no way you can say that a call getter from IIM A is better than the others simply because there is no objective way to look at it. In fact in a bid to increase diversity and women most IIMs seems to have compromised on quality. Even if they have not, you cannot say that the best get into the top schools. There is NO VIRTUOUS CYCLE. It is the alumni of top schools who indulge in this NEPOTISM and clearly encourage elitism

4 Aug 2012, 10.50 AM

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Random Thought

@Mihir: Read again, the topic is not "Is CAT Selection Process Full Proof'? Nevertheless, one has to agree that it is much easier to find good talent in top B-schools than go and search for the few excellent people, in the not so good B-schools. Though if you have talent, a good B-school or not, you will excel in life. A good B-school can only give you a launch pad, but it is only your knowledge and competence which can help you sustain.

5 Aug 2012, 03.33 PM |

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Comments
 

Rohit Kumar

The examples put forward by the team from FMS pointing out to exceptions like Kaku Nakhate and Kalpana Morparia also do not stand because the Indian economy was in a different phase earlier. It was easier to work your way up then. These days without an MBA degree from any of the top schools you won't even stand a chance to be promoted. There is a lot of campus politics in the workplace too and I have experienced it first hand. Why do we have so many people desperately seeking a MBA degree? Simply, because their undergrad degree or MBA from a not-so good bschool will not take them too far (which is why people do double MBAs). Elitism definitely exists and is there for all to see.

3 Aug 2012, 01.06 PM

Rahul

"When the laboratory at CERN employs scientists, to study the Higgs Boson, and not athletes, it does so not out of elitism but out of competence of the individuals in a field." - This is the most stupid argument I read. No one is saying that round pegs need to be in square holes .i.e. no one claims that elitism means not allowing athletes to be employed by CERN. It's a completely irrelevant point to this discussion.

4 Aug 2012, 10.29 AM

Mihir Mehta

The argument that "Top Business Schools have the best brains" can be questioned on most grounds. Till 2005-06 odd when CAT cutoffs were in a pecking order it still made sense since there was some form of objectivity. So if you had a call from say IIM A you were guaranteed one from LIK for sure. These days, because of absolutely weird selection criteria, there is no way you can say that a call getter from IIM A is better than the others simply because there is no objective way to look at it. In fact in a bid to increase diversity and women most IIMs seems to have compromised on quality. Even if they have not, you cannot say that the best get into the top schools. There is NO VIRTUOUS CYCLE. It is the alumni of top schools who indulge in this NEPOTISM and clearly encourage elitism

4 Aug 2012, 10.50 AM

+Read Replies (1)

Random Thought

@Mihir: Read again, the topic is not "Is CAT Selection Process Full Proof'? Nevertheless, one has to agree that it is much easier to find good talent in top B-schools than go and search for the few excellent people, in the not so good B-schools. Though if you have talent, a good B-school or not, you will excel in life. A good B-school can only give you a launch pad, but it is only your knowledge and competence which can help you sustain.

5 Aug 2012, 03.33 PM |