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Battle #2 - CounterPunch by VGSoM, IIT Kharagpur - Only Graduates should be allowed to contest elections

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Debayan Roy

I am a simple innocent boy with not so simple ambitions...

Quoting your third paragraph "Though we believe______________________________diversity in our population" I agree with your rationale that there should be equal representation, but to what extent. You mean to say that since only 20 Million in this country are non graduates, hence for equal representation we need non graduates in our parliament. Going by this logic of your, A percentage of our population are criminals, reseve seats for them to, a huge percentage is below BPL, are we reserving seats for them too? There is a long list. The point here is we should be able to choose the best 545 that would be able to lead our country. Because it is NOT SO that only an undergraduate can understand the pain of another undergraduate

27 Aug 2014, 10.16 PM

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Ishan Dogra

@Debayan Roy.. 20 million GRADUATES(excluding Masters/PHDs) and not Non-Graduates...Secondly , I am still unable to understand the analogy you have used for rebuttal.Comparing a Non-Graduate to a Criminal is a little far fetched. We strongly believe that our representatives should have the highest qualification possible but what about the stratum of society that is not privileged enough to get the degrees from Harvard/Yale. To sum it all, a tea seller rightly said once, "It is Hard Work which matters and not Harvard". But the the tea seller here was fortunate enough that he got a chance to compete his masters.

29 Aug 2014, 11.01 PM |

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

"Out of a population of 1.2 Billion, there are merely 20 million graduates". Please get your facts right. There were more than 37 million graduates in India as per the 2001 census. Although the same data for 2011 census seems unavailable, but we can be sure that the numbers would have increased manifold rather than decreasing by around 17 million. http://censusindia.gov.in/Census_And_You/literacy_and_level_of_education.aspx It also means that we have a larger pool of graduate candidates from, much larger than cited 20 million!

27 Aug 2014, 11.17 PM

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

EDIT - *It also means that we have a larger pool of graduate candidates to choose our leaders from, much larger than cited 20 million! Also, there is a huge difference between choosing a maid and choosing a representative for our country. In the former case, you know the person personally, but in latter case, you have to trust their background and qualification, which would ultimately land up to their academic education; the more the better. :) PS. Background is equally important, and we agree to that point upfront.

27 Aug 2014, 11.28 PM

Ishan Dogra

Sometime it is better to skip the "reading between the lines" concept said a great man once....In our original article we had explicitly mentioned that we are referring to the 2010-11 All India Higher Education Survey report, since that was a final version and not the 2011 report since it was provisional report.Please go through the attached link and you might want to add up one more "edited comment" . http://mhrd.gov.in/statistics_data?tid_2=239 (Refer page 22) PS: Also our category of graduates just considered the guys who complete their UG degrees and are "graduates" not Master/PHDs ,etc (well...here was the part you could have read between the lines and inferred where the 20 million was coming from...)

29 Aug 2014, 10.50 PM

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Debayan Roy

I am a simple innocent boy with not so simple ambitions...

Quoting your third paragraph "Though we believe______________________________diversity in our population" I agree with your rationale that there should be equal representation, but to what extent. You mean to say that since only 20 Million in this country are non graduates, hence for equal representation we need non graduates in our parliament. Going by this logic of your, A percentage of our population are criminals, reseve seats for them to, a huge percentage is below BPL, are we reserving seats for them too? There is a long list. The point here is we should be able to choose the best 545 that would be able to lead our country. Because it is NOT SO that only an undergraduate can understand the pain of another undergraduate

27 Aug 2014, 10.16 PM

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Ishan Dogra

@Debayan Roy.. 20 million GRADUATES(excluding Masters/PHDs) and not Non-Graduates...Secondly , I am still unable to understand the analogy you have used for rebuttal.Comparing a Non-Graduate to a Criminal is a little far fetched. We strongly believe that our representatives should have the highest qualification possible but what about the stratum of society that is not privileged enough to get the degrees from Harvard/Yale. To sum it all, a tea seller rightly said once, "It is Hard Work which matters and not Harvard". But the the tea seller here was fortunate enough that he got a chance to compete his masters.

29 Aug 2014, 11.01 PM |

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

"Out of a population of 1.2 Billion, there are merely 20 million graduates". Please get your facts right. There were more than 37 million graduates in India as per the 2001 census. Although the same data for 2011 census seems unavailable, but we can be sure that the numbers would have increased manifold rather than decreasing by around 17 million. http://censusindia.gov.in/Census_And_You/literacy_and_level_of_education.aspx It also means that we have a larger pool of graduate candidates from, much larger than cited 20 million!

27 Aug 2014, 11.17 PM

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

EDIT - *It also means that we have a larger pool of graduate candidates to choose our leaders from, much larger than cited 20 million! Also, there is a huge difference between choosing a maid and choosing a representative for our country. In the former case, you know the person personally, but in latter case, you have to trust their background and qualification, which would ultimately land up to their academic education; the more the better. :) PS. Background is equally important, and we agree to that point upfront.

27 Aug 2014, 11.28 PM

Ishan Dogra

Sometime it is better to skip the "reading between the lines" concept said a great man once....In our original article we had explicitly mentioned that we are referring to the 2010-11 All India Higher Education Survey report, since that was a final version and not the 2011 report since it was provisional report.Please go through the attached link and you might want to add up one more "edited comment" . http://mhrd.gov.in/statistics_data?tid_2=239 (Refer page 22) PS: Also our category of graduates just considered the guys who complete their UG degrees and are "graduates" not Master/PHDs ,etc (well...here was the part you could have read between the lines and inferred where the 20 million was coming from...)

29 Aug 2014, 10.50 PM