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Battle #2 - CounterPunch by IIT Kanpur - Only Graduates should be allowed to contest elections

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Debayan Roy

I am a simple innocent boy with not so simple ambitions...

Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, very good but at the same time very convenient as I don't think getting a graduate degree in end of 18th and beginning of 19th cetuary was as easy as it was today. I maybe wrong, but my research tells that the number graduation colleges per person today are far more than the number of graduation colleges per person then. It is like saying a Prime Minister can be excused for not knowing how to switch on a light bulb, as both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln didn't. My point keep the comparisons relevant.

27 Aug 2014, 10.42 PM

Nabeel Salim

Hi Voyagers, though i believe that setting graduation levels are undoubtedly going to providing higher chances of producing better governance leaders, I also advocate for an equitable society for India, a country unique in its kind. If I take some data from the Unesco about the adult literacy levels of India it goes as follows: 1990: 48.2%, 2000: 61.0%, 2010: 62.8%,...It was even lesser pre-1990. So will it be not discriminatory to inhibit a chunk of adult population on the basis of literacy levels, let alone graduation qualifications...Will this not aggravate the separatist forces in our pluralistic society given the self-aggrandising nature of politicians when they assume power. India is in a transformational change stage and the transition towards a strong society comes when its education is made strong. I accept the transformation rate has been slow in terms of increasing education levels..But will it be in the best interests of the nation to put a threshold limit for qualification for governance posts? The fissiparous tendencies are going to increase if the root-cause are not addressed first and India cannot afford any further marginalisation among its population. I believe speedening up of educational levels is to be increased first so that we can set the graduation level criteria in the near future. The current challenge lies in how quickly we are able to reach this future.

28 Aug 2014, 12.48 AM

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

Mr. Debyan, we have not tried to "compare" Abraham Lincoln or George Washington with anyone. Our opponents gave these examples in their original article in which they quoted these people as the emblem of good governance while being non-graduates in their times. We only wanted to quoted that even being non-graduates in their times (as you rightly mentioned, due to the dearth of resources during those times), these political leaders were of the view of promoting education at all levels, as they too understood its importance. Though the word "graduation" has not directly been used by them, of course, but in the changing times, the need for formal education at higher levels is very much required and appreciated, in our view.

29 Aug 2014, 10.41 AM

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

Nabeel, thanks for sharing your views on the topic. We’d agree to the facts you stated here, but at the same time we believe that for past 67 years we have been trying to increase the education levels in our country. The results have improved, without a doubt, but the pace has been very slow. Since you too are of the opinion that setting graduation levels are undoubtedly going to providing higher chances of producing better governance leaders, the important question to be addressed here is, till when should we wait and can we delay this decision any further. Yes, initially there might not be equal representation from all parts of the society, but we have to show the faith in the educated (and graduated) leaders we elect, to bridge this gap in near future by promoting and improving the education standards in the country. One day things will change. And we can see that day coming, soon; otherwise never.

29 Aug 2014, 10.52 AM

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Comments
 

Debayan Roy

I am a simple innocent boy with not so simple ambitions...

Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, very good but at the same time very convenient as I don't think getting a graduate degree in end of 18th and beginning of 19th cetuary was as easy as it was today. I maybe wrong, but my research tells that the number graduation colleges per person today are far more than the number of graduation colleges per person then. It is like saying a Prime Minister can be excused for not knowing how to switch on a light bulb, as both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln didn't. My point keep the comparisons relevant.

27 Aug 2014, 10.42 PM

Nabeel Salim

Hi Voyagers, though i believe that setting graduation levels are undoubtedly going to providing higher chances of producing better governance leaders, I also advocate for an equitable society for India, a country unique in its kind. If I take some data from the Unesco about the adult literacy levels of India it goes as follows: 1990: 48.2%, 2000: 61.0%, 2010: 62.8%,...It was even lesser pre-1990. So will it be not discriminatory to inhibit a chunk of adult population on the basis of literacy levels, let alone graduation qualifications...Will this not aggravate the separatist forces in our pluralistic society given the self-aggrandising nature of politicians when they assume power. India is in a transformational change stage and the transition towards a strong society comes when its education is made strong. I accept the transformation rate has been slow in terms of increasing education levels..But will it be in the best interests of the nation to put a threshold limit for qualification for governance posts? The fissiparous tendencies are going to increase if the root-cause are not addressed first and India cannot afford any further marginalisation among its population. I believe speedening up of educational levels is to be increased first so that we can set the graduation level criteria in the near future. The current challenge lies in how quickly we are able to reach this future.

28 Aug 2014, 12.48 AM

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

Mr. Debyan, we have not tried to "compare" Abraham Lincoln or George Washington with anyone. Our opponents gave these examples in their original article in which they quoted these people as the emblem of good governance while being non-graduates in their times. We only wanted to quoted that even being non-graduates in their times (as you rightly mentioned, due to the dearth of resources during those times), these political leaders were of the view of promoting education at all levels, as they too understood its importance. Though the word "graduation" has not directly been used by them, of course, but in the changing times, the need for formal education at higher levels is very much required and appreciated, in our view.

29 Aug 2014, 10.41 AM

Ketan Bagga

Lead Coordinator, Public Relations Team, MBA IIT Kanpur

Nabeel, thanks for sharing your views on the topic. We’d agree to the facts you stated here, but at the same time we believe that for past 67 years we have been trying to increase the education levels in our country. The results have improved, without a doubt, but the pace has been very slow. Since you too are of the opinion that setting graduation levels are undoubtedly going to providing higher chances of producing better governance leaders, the important question to be addressed here is, till when should we wait and can we delay this decision any further. Yes, initially there might not be equal representation from all parts of the society, but we have to show the faith in the educated (and graduated) leaders we elect, to bridge this gap in near future by promoting and improving the education standards in the country. One day things will change. And we can see that day coming, soon; otherwise never.

29 Aug 2014, 10.52 AM