Final Placements : FMS Delhi - Class of 2013

Insideiim Admin

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The 21% is for Consulting. It will be updated soon.

16 May 2013, 06.49 PM |

Well Wisher

Morgan Stanley did not offer any front end role at JBIMS.

16 May 2013, 07.06 PM |

karan

it offered a front end role.

17 May 2013, 02.08 PM |

panda

and there is also a mention of jumbo electronics,akzo nobel which r not here. ..

16 May 2013, 07.34 PM |

Abhishek

I am aware of offers from Microsoft,Amex and Jumbo Electronics and Akzo Nobel. Not sure about Yes Bank though

16 May 2013, 08.12 PM |

Neutral_Guy

Yes Bank did give an offer to a student from FMS.

16 May 2013, 09.58 PM |

Hema

Amex gave PPOs for sure

17 May 2013, 08.58 AM |

BhandaPhod

If u have the real stats with details, then plz post it here itself. Y wait for insideiim team.

16 May 2013, 10.33 PM |

Abhishek

Lol no wonder your name is fake

17 May 2013, 01.10 AM |

Fake

Such a lame reply. Yes, I am Fake, At least I am not like your report, Fake n Acting Real !

17 May 2013, 01.50 AM |

BhandaPhod

Go for XL this year itself. FMS is also a great institute, but its the tough times that brings out the strength of a campus. This year XL outperformed FMS, thereby showing the might of its network even if it has a negative of being in a location of Jamshedpur. If u are very concerned about cost, then FMS can be chosen as there is not a significant difference in these two gr8 B-Schools. There are some great profiles/companies in these campuses which are at par with those offered at IIM A/B/C. Try to grab those. Do not give another year by leaving XL/FMS. Its too risky. One fine day the normalisation goes kaput and u dont get called frm FMS, forget abt the IIMs. Had ur converts been among MDI/NITIE/IIFT/SPJIMR/SJSOM/JB, I could still have suggested to take CAT next year. But in this case, my personal opinion wud be NO.Rest is ur call. All the best.

17 May 2013, 01.14 AM |

Fake

Same Advice.

17 May 2013, 01.53 AM |

Endless_Dilemma

Thanks for ur reply :) Is there a huge gap b/w XL & ABC? :o Will I be missing out on something BIG if I don't go for ABC? :o Will I be always behind an ABC graduate in the initial or later stages in life? :o [I know the cliched answer that "PERFORMANCE MATTERS" but regardless of ur performance, there is always a gap that is too big to be bridged. Like a super hard-working guy from (say) TAPMI will never be the CEO of a big-wig regardless of what he does. So I am asking in a similar context]

17 May 2013, 03.08 AM |

IIM Bangalore Grad

Yes, there is a difference in terms of perception & placements between ABC and XL. The top 40 to 50 jobs in I-Banking and Management Consulting put together is the differentiating factor between XL and ABC. Firms such as McKinsey, Bain, Booz, ATKearney, Alvarez & Marsal, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, RBS, Barclays, Credit Suisse, UBS, Morgan Stanley, Nomura, Merill Lynch, Deutsche Bank among others offer those (plum) roles at ABC but not at XLRI. I am sure XLRI would have a few roles exclusive to them. Otherwise, there is nothing much to differentiate between the ABC and the next 3 to 4 top schools.

17 May 2013, 08.25 AM |

Gooner

How many people do companies like Blackstone and Alvarez & Marshal have hired over the years? Just curious

17 May 2013, 11.38 AM |

Gaurav

Very few. Infact in single digits over the last three years put together. But then, yes ABC is the only way to get there through campus placements.

17 May 2013, 07.50 PM |

Basant A

13 students were unplaced and 5 students took a placement holiday (signed out of placements before the placement started).

17 May 2013, 06.42 PM |

Basant A

And the figure of 13 is as of March 31st. The number might have decreased further as well but certainly not more than 13 :)

17 May 2013, 06.43 PM |

Kranti A

Sir. 13+5 = 18. Thats what I said InsideIIM says 15 +5. Where is the discrepancy then?

17 May 2013, 06.59 PM |

Well Wisher

Around 30 to 50 students were unplaced at both IIM-C and IIM-L until convocation. They are yet to come out with the placement reports IIM-B managed to place all its students though.. IIM-B&#039;s report is out on its website. <a href="http://www.iimb.ernet.in/sites/default/files/u181/Information%20on%20Final%20Placements_2013-2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.iimb.ernet.in/sites/default/files/u181...</a>

17 May 2013, 11.48 AM |

Insideiim Admin

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If 11 people are unplaced and not 20 then why are neither the FMS Placement committee or the media cell coming forward to clarify it? In the data sent to us they only showed 5 sign outs.

17 May 2013, 02.45 PM |

Insideiim Admin

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The placement team shares data. So we thank them for that. At FMS, the media team is corresponding with us so we have to send queries to them. The case of unplaced students was brought to our notice later by a FMS student, who shared the names of some of the unplaced students. This information was not given to us earlier in the data. We have asked the media cell for a clarification and haven&#039;t heard from them at all on this yet. Unverified means unverified by the school reps. It may be useless or confusing for you but you are not our only user/reader. It is useful for others and hence we do unverified reports wherever possible. If we get feedback from a reasonable amount of readers/users that our unverified reports are useless then we will stop creating them. Generally, schools do not share data when they have something to hide or are afraid of comparison. IIM A does not share data but asks us to refer to an audited report.

17 May 2013, 01.01 PM |

Sonia

@InsideIIM: Again you are contradicting yourself. You just said that placement team shares data with you and Media team is the mediator. When you are saying again about the unplaced students, which is a number, you should have asked the placement team no, rather than contacting the mediators? My brother studies in IIM C and I am well aware of the situations and how things like these work. Essentially what I am saying is, FMS is my best call and I am wondering about it but at the same time I have heard that InsideIIM is a good website but judging by the way you are replying and posting things, frankly speaking, you are consistently sounding logically inconsistent in the way you are confirming about this and referring to students. I mean word of mouth is a strong means to refer and If I or others don&#039;t think logically then we won&#039;t go for FMS just because of some unofficial source that you referred to and we followed it and me or others will waste another year because of some random unofficial information you posted. I don&#039;t know, it feels bad. I guess PagalGuy is better than you guys for sure ... #StillConfused

17 May 2013, 02.13 PM |

Insideiim Admin

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We are incapable of helping you. We apologize for that.

17 May 2013, 02.41 PM |

Well Wisher

Could not quite understand what you wrote. But if you have &quot;your&quot; brother studying at IIM-C, then what are you doing here? Your brother could serve as the best guide for you. Ignore poor websites such as InsideIIM.com

17 May 2013, 03.07 PM |

Sonia

I believe in considering different opinions Mr. Well Wisher...But obviously the team sounds like pretty tired about it...

17 May 2013, 03.24 PM |

BDC

@ Sonia - Converted FMS and still having such basic doubts!!! Are you sure your from General Category?

17 May 2013, 08.07 PM |

Finally_a_JOKAr

With all due respect, did u seriously get into FMS with this IQ? :o I saw that u mentioned below that &quot;PG is better than Insideiim on this front&quot; or something like that. So, being a follower of PG, have&#039;nt u noticed that the ending statement in EVERY report published there also clearly mentions that &quot;The placement report is based on claims made by the institute in its placement report and answers to our questions therafter. PaGaLGuY does not take responsibility for the accuracy of the claims.&quot; So have&#039;nt u noticed this sentence there as well? :o In case u are so naive, let me explain to u that the meaning of the term UNVERIFIED means that since the institute does&#039;nt follow any reporting standards, it is impossible to ascertain if the average is anywhere close even. Insideiim still tries to verify as much data as possible [probably the only one in this business] &amp; it was the only website that clarified to us that McK did&#039;nt come to XLRI campus this year [ALL other website claimed that]. But it is not humanly possible to call 100+ companies &amp; ask them that &quot;did u pay this package?&quot;, &quot;did u recruit X number of students?&quot;, &quot;did u include Joining Bonus in the CTC to push it past the average?&quot;. Hence the need for the term UNVERIFIED/ STRICTLY AS SHARED BY THE INSTITUTE or any other word-play, for legal &amp; moral obligations. So someone who tries THIS MUCH for us, u could have been less harsh [&quot;PG is much better than insideiim&quot; etc is just a low-blow girl]. For the 1st question, it is so mind numbingly stupid that I just cannot stoop to such levels to reply to this &quot;logical&quot; question :)

17 May 2013, 11.04 PM |

rahul malhotra

Please correct your English or get it checked by someone who knows it before actually questioning others about their IQ Level. The number of basic grammatical mistakes are so many, it is quite shameful to read it. It seems as if an 8 year old has written it.

18 May 2013, 02.43 AM |

rahul malhotra

@BDC- Do you seriously understand the implications of your racist comment. Kindly be more careful about writing or implying things based on category. I am shocked InsideIIM that you would remove the comment of someone trolling another individual but you haven&#039;t been able to delete this comment which very much goes against the whole reservation concept. Be more professional please!

18 May 2013, 02.46 AM |

Finally_a_JOKAr

Could plz specify my INNUMERABLE grammatical mistakes, Mr. &quot;The number of basic grammatical mistakes are so many, it is quite shameful to read it&quot; :D :D [Honestly I don&#039;t know if u are gonna get ur mistake :) ]. U know what, I can give u my email id &amp; u give me yours. Then we can swap our bio &amp; see who is the more accomplished one, agreed ? :) Regardless of how MENTALLY RETARDED, GRAMMATICALLY INCORRECT, AWFUL AT ENGLISH, i am, I AM A JOKAr B*TCH :D :D I am so relaxed nowadays that I don&#039;t even get angry on hearing abuses :) A feeling u would understand had u made it into the HOLY TRINITY (that too, without quota :p ) :) Whatever insult comes my way, I just LOOOVE flashing my Offer Letter &amp; seeing that feeling of embarrassment &amp; humiliation on the face of non-achievers like u :)

18 May 2013, 03.35 AM |

karan

seriously ma are u a chutiya??kuch bhi likh raha hai.making it to JOKA makes u the boss of the entire world.what is ur significant contribution to this world except having cleared CAT?what is there to boast about?

18 May 2013, 10.28 AM |

Finally_a_JOKAr

@insideiim --&gt; Respected Sir/mam, I would like to laud u for ur efforts &amp; plz don&#039;t let these trollers discourage u from publishing u these inside infos that NO ONE else would share. If u track the IP of certain &quot;characters&quot; in this comment section who ,in a veil of an aspirant or someone who &quot;brother is joining FMS&quot;, criticised u for adding inside infos or not publishing the same for X,Y,Z institutes, I can bet that u will find 90% of these from the Delhi-NCR region :) [or people who will be joining FMS soon &amp; already feel as one with this institute :p]. I am sure that I speak for several when I say that U are absolutely the best when it comes to placement reports atleast. Only if u could add 5 more instis to extend ur base :p Infact I miss that little personal note from u guys in every placement report [Like when u said that L is giving ABC a run for their money lat year &amp; then u scratched it :( Who cares if some insecured people cry bias. Apurv in PG gets accused of being a dictator all the time :p] PS--&gt; Not that this stupid message from me means anything, but still felt like lauding ur efforts after reading so many baseless accusations.

17 May 2013, 11.14 PM |

rahul malhotra

Totally agree with you on one thing, it was a STUPID Message. Dude, you don&#039;t belong here. Everytime, I read your comment, your immaturity becomes clearer and clearer.

18 May 2013, 03.12 AM |

Finally_a_JOKAr

ONCE AGAIN, lets plzzzz share our achievements over email :D :D ONCE AGAIN, I AM A G+E+M JOKAr B*TCH :D :D Something that u will NEVER achieve in ur life :)

18 May 2013, 03.47 AM |

M&amp;M

IIM C placement has also been bad this year people with 12 lac loan on their heads have gone in companies like emami with 40k/month and neeelkamal at 5 LPA less than they were earning before MBA.

18 May 2013, 11.43 AM |

Insideiim Admin

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There are names of people who were unplaced. We have called up students and alumni from FMS before publishing. Unfortunately, the response from all of them is not something you want to hear. You can keep debating about the whether the number is 12,11 or 20. Do note the following facts : 1) There is no denial or acceptance of our queries. 2) We were sent data which said 5 students signed out. It is clear now after confirming with various sources that the data sent to us was partial. If something goes against one&#039;s bschool, we are termed partial. In the last 1 month 3 business schools have accused us being partial against them. We derive satisfaction from the fact that we have provided a picture as close as possible to reality. In our opinion, the final placements at FMS has been very successful because there aren&#039;t many schools this year where there were no unplaced students/students who signed out. There is no shame in not being able to place everyone in this tough market. And FMS should be proud of the quality of companies that have made offers to its students. However, if there are unplaced students, there are unplaced students and our readers need to know about it.

17 May 2013, 03.31 PM |

Abhishek

To add to it we haven&#039;t seen reports from IIM C,L and I for that matter which they promised to provide by this date.

17 May 2013, 03.39 PM |

Insideiim Admin

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IIM Indore report will be out on insideiim in a couple of days. IIM C and IIM L haven&#039;t announced completion of their placements yet. There are people unplaced in most of the IIMs. There is no data to create an unverified report either. Data will be published as and when we get it.

17 May 2013, 03.58 PM |

Aspirant

&quot;You can keep debating about whether the number is 12,11 or 20&quot; - we are now talking about accuracy of numbers. Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s unfair to say that &quot;you know what a college has unplaced students so let&#039;s write 20. After all, what difference does it make if it&#039;s 10 or 20?&quot; Agreed you have partial information, but then what you have done is take a call against this bschool to go ahead and put any number. You may be right, but by publishing half truths about one college and not the other, don&#039;t you think that brings in an element of bias? Every college will obviously have it&#039;s own prerogatives. There are rumors that the best bschool in this country forcibly signed out a lot of people to report 100% placements. Would you publish that if &quot;Some student&quot; mailed that information with &quot;names&quot; to you? I will not be making my decision to join a college based on how many it couldn&#039;t place (so I think the comment &quot;response from all of them is not something you want to hear&quot; is not relevant to me). And with all due respect, these bschools are large enough institutions to not be &quot;shamed&quot; or &quot;defamed&quot; by one article. I&#039;ll definitely be following your reports on other Bschools, especially the IIMs, now that we have information from various sources on their unplaced numbers and see if you do report those with the same eagerness.

17 May 2013, 03.59 PM |

Insideiim Admin

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We have published a figure of 20 ( with 5 sign outs) because that is the information we have. We believe the number is accurate until proven otherwise. We get tens of mails every day from disgruntled students. We don&#039;t publish everything. This was published because there is truth in it.

17 May 2013, 04.07 PM |

Finally_a_JOKAr

What sort of a stupid query is this? :o If an institute does&#039;nt publish it&#039;s placement report, infact if some are still toiling with placing those last 30-40 &amp; don&#039;t wanna publish anything till then, then WTF is insideiim supposed to do? :o Publish a report titled &quot;FINAL PLACEMENT REPORT OF 250 STUDENTS OF IIM-C. REST WILL BE PUBLISHED ONCE THEY GET PLACED. BTW, THIS IS OUR OWN RESEARCH &amp; THE INSTITUTE DID&#039;NT SHARE ANY OF THESE NAMES&quot; :D Only when an institute declares completion of placements can a magazine go ahead with enquiring who all offered what profiles. Is&#039;nt this pretty straightforward? :o People say the darnedest of things :D

17 May 2013, 11.20 PM |

rahul malhotra

It is not accurate. I can assure you of that. If you are not able to get the right figures from a placement team, that is your problem. I request you to KINDLY DO NOT MISLEAD Aspirants if you are not sure of it.

18 May 2013, 02.55 AM |

rahul malhotra

Dude, stop posting. I am sure with this kind of an English, you are definitely not cracking any MBA College. Be a little more professional and stop posting in this manner with smileys etc.

18 May 2013, 02.56 AM |

panda

go for cat 2013...iift d is good but IIM ABCL FMS XL should be the ones on ur radar ps :not the correct thread for this query

17 May 2013, 03.51 PM |

@shrinivassg

32 people signed out at A? Lulz. Lulz. Lulz. LOL! Dude, get your numbers right. I am an A student.

17 May 2013, 06.21 PM |

BDC

SO APPARENTLY IT SEEMS ALL OF A SUDDEN EITHER SOMEONE HAS JUST CONVERTED A CALL FROM FMS OR HAS A BROTHER/SISTER/WIFE/HUBAND WHO HAS GOT AN FMS CALL AND HENCE THEY ARE DESPERATE TO GET THE CORRECT ANSWERS FROM INSIDEIIM.COM Guys, if you wanna troll atleast do it with some decency!!!!!!! If you dont like whats written here, go to pagalguy.com

17 May 2013, 08.11 PM |

M&amp;M

Your information is totally wrong if it is correct provide name of all the students your are referring to. As for FMS 5+14 are unplaced and moreover salary is highly inflated. And it&#039;s not only this year this has been happening in FMS in last 6-7 years. All the proof is already given to inside iim.

17 May 2013, 10.32 PM |

Opinion

It should be either FMS or XL Personal choice L is just not worth it

18 May 2013, 01.57 AM |

rahul malhotra

Honestly speaking, if I would have been able to do that I would have done that by now. But, to get the list of 11 or 20 students is much easier than to get a list of 50 students, which is the number of unplaced candidates at IIM L. I can assure you one thing, that your numbers about FMS are very much inaccurate. Check your sources again. It seems as if you have given the proof to InsideIIM, that is why you know about it. Then, I am disappointed that because of one person like you who doesn&#039;t know about the true figures, this debate is going on. Moreover, I am not on a quest here to save FMS or any other college but only to highlight the fact that unofficial figures create confusion and defeats the main purpose- which is guiding the aspirants. When my brother came to me with these figures, I was rather shocked and hence, I am posting comments here. However, it seems like there is no point anymore since InsideIIM is hell bent on sticking to its flawed policy.

18 May 2013, 02.52 AM |

vchad

L not worth it??? L is any day better than FMS or XL.Instead of looking at numbers , please look at the percentage of the batch that is not placed..And consider the fact that the unplaced people in L n C are probably from the reserved category which cannot be the case for the unplaced people in XL n FMS. If your brother is from the general category you shouldn&#039;t be worried about L, even if these figures are accurate.

18 May 2013, 01.42 PM |

Xler

@vchad unplaced people in XL?? Are you okay bro..yaar L is one of the best Bschool. but it doesn&#039;t mean that you carry on demeaning other Bschools

18 May 2013, 01.58 PM |

vchad

@XLer.Wasn&#039;t intending to demean XL.XL is a great school.Was trying to make the point that you shouldnt look at the absolute numbers n compare B-Schools.Factors like batch size, percentage of the batch that wouldnt have been there if birth circumstances were different, and the mapping of pre to post MBA profiles are better signals to evaluate B-Schools if you are looking at placements and nothing but placements.In my opinion,if someone goes for a b-school M and rejects b-School N because N has lesser unplaced people, and does not look at the job opportunities someone with his profile, acads,work ex n interests would get in M n N, it&#039;s good for B School N, cause it wouldn&#039;t want someone who was incapable of doing such an analysis as its alum anyway.

18 May 2013, 02.41 PM |

Parth

Dude, you need to get your facts right and say things in the right context. In FMS, 5 people did not resort to placement holiday. 5 people opted for placement holiday even before the placements began. If you knew about the placement holiday policy, you wouldnt have made such a misleading and factually incorrect statement.

20 May 2013, 12.21 AM |

Rohit Baheti

The whole world knows that there are unplaced students at IIM CLIK. Even XLRI admitted to not being able to place a few students. What are you so unhappy about? And you are very blatantly trying to defend FMS over IIM L. Where is the question of IIM L here when there is no report on it? IIM L has uplaced students. We all know it. But FMS is trying to hide stuff from us. 218 students is all that they had to place. The junta deserves to know.

17 May 2013, 04.51 PM |

karan

exactly my point rohit.i think it has been the case of &quot;the fall of a giant as far as fms is concerned&quot;.merely having BCG on the list of your recruiters does not make u a badass b-school.moreover,morgan stanley had come for summers and fms students were boasting that it is the only college in india where a front end IB role was offered by morgan stanley,but as things stand i do not see any morgan stanley in final placements.i do not why the facts are being hidden from the junta.

17 May 2013, 06.47 PM |

Insideiim Admin

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Last warning to you. Do not try to antagonize people here by making statements like &#039;Fall of a giant&#039; etc. Facts have been laid. Students are unplaced across most business schools this year. There is no fall for anyone anywhere.

17 May 2013, 06.54 PM |

panda

fall of the giant...????just look at the quality of placements...how many b schools in our country provide this quality of placements???? as far as i can see the placements have been pretty good....and yes students remaining unplaced is a very sad thing but this will be true for many top b schools this yr. IIM B said 12 students signed out which is questionable.....hopefully the unplaced guys(in each n every college) wud get a good job !!!

17 May 2013, 06.58 PM |

Gaurav

For IIM Bangalore, out of 12 people who signed out, 7 students deferred their placements. Three of them have started up; a hedge fund and a company in the primary education space. The other four have also stated &quot;startup&quot; as the reason for deferring their placements. Of the five students, who have signed out, three of them are returning to their parent companies. Not sure about the other two.

17 May 2013, 07.46 PM |

Whaattt

Dude get your facts right , XL placed every1 ..one person signed out as he didn&#039;t like the offer made to him and didst see any company coming matching his expectation and prior workex

17 May 2013, 07.48 PM |

rahul malhotra

My problem is not about defending any one college. The issue here is that if you are willing to provide the aspirants about unverified or unofficial information, then might as well go ahead with IIM L and IIM C&#039;s reports. At least find out and print the basic stats. The reasoning given that their placements are still going on, seems irrational. If not, then it is a bias. We all know there are unplaced students at IIM L, but how many? Maybe, InsideIIM has better sources and can help us out. The aspirants need to know. I also suggested that InsideIIM can easily print an official report, after a discussion with the Placement Teams and then print unverified or unofficial information received from different sources in a DIFFERENT FORUM. This will only help the aspirants as well as people can have a free discussion on the other forum.

18 May 2013, 03.03 AM |

Xler

I am a XLer and please let me know that when XL admitted to not being place a few students. Only 1 BM guy signed out and that too voluntarily after rejecting a offer from a IT consulting offer for London in laterals. He had some location constraint.

18 May 2013, 12.07 PM |

M&amp;M

One of FMS finance topper CFA L-2 , engineering university topper is unplaced that showing level of placement at FMS

17 May 2013, 10.48 PM |

FMS student

That ONE individual had soft skill issues and a focus on finance with 4 years experience. He also was incredibly unlucky for I know he worked very hard. Enough ppl got jobs and while its sad that 12-13 ppl did not get offers that they wanted , they had issues earlier too. Talk about the other ppl who got brilliant jobs

18 May 2013, 01.52 AM |

rahul malhotra

It seems as if you are a friend of someone who is unplaced and you are here to vent out the anguish on a public forum. Please help maintain the sanctity of such sources of public information. How well do you know about the opportunities that were being provided to that individual and what did that person do with it? Moreover, Finance was a tough nut to crack this season. Don&#039;t let that affect the thousands of students taking help from this website, to decide about their future.

18 May 2013, 03.06 AM |

M&amp;M

And average salary is also false proof of that is also being given.Placement has been 90% it&#039;s always been the case in FMS if you don&#039;t have information. Those who got the jobs also have got very low level jobs if you know. Even people from IITs etc. did not get proper jobs and have been pushed into TCS etc. And also FMS students were caught plagiarism during placement and companies boycotted them. About 30 companies went empty handed without taking any student due to incompetency and unprofessionalism of students

18 May 2013, 10.56 AM |

Basant A

You can talk about a few cases here in the negative. Similarly you can also talk about innumerable number of cases of non-IITians who were placed in very good companies.. Hence cases are there both ways and an IIT degree unfortunately doesn&#039;t guarantee anything. And when InsideIIM and many others say FMS had very good placements this year it means in relation with other top B-schools and industry conditions. You can keep citing a couple of events and exaggerate a few more. But this is the process of comparison. Hence do also talk about placements at other B-schools in comparison with FMS and then we shall compare. Also respect the fact that students of FMS clearly said (if not the media cell) about the unplaced candidates with dates (many said so on public forums well in advance of the article&#039;s published date). I doubt on any other forum if a student of a top tier B-school openly accepted about the kind of companies that came, about how students were forced to do something, etc. Also you may check with the authorities/ students, etc., NONE of the students were forced to sign out or take a company. And how about we also talk about the spirit of entrepreneurship generated by the institute which saw five people taking placement holiday this year (with 2 already running companies for the past 3.5 months).

18 May 2013, 12.07 PM |

M&amp;M

Your source of 11 is wrong there are 14+5 unplaced all the details are with inside iim along with are the details phone numbers and e-mails. So stop fooling people. I have 100% information with all details it&#039;s not UNVERIFIED it&#039;s the case of forgery on part of FMS for which legal action will be taken against all those who have done it. ALL THE PROOF WILL BE PROVIDED IN THE COURT. If you know FMS so well you must be knowing that Delhi university wants FMS to stop campus placements for some time now and this event will trigger that action.

18 May 2013, 10.50 AM |

Basant A

By the figure of 11 or 12 or 13 or 14 (by you) people are referring to the students who could not be placed. And it would be better to call the +5 as students who took placement holiday (before the start of the placement season) and not as unplaced just to cluster them in another group and avoid confusion. And kindly throw some light as how does it matter if the number is 11/12/13/14 as the data received by all of us is through various sources in FMS. Thus the figure can be anything in that range. And no one is denying that the entire batch was not placed. And the placement report also doesn&#039;t say that the institute reported 100% placements this year. But ya you can keep on debating and arguing and splitting the threads on whether the number is 11 or 14. However I think the forum was for a richer discussion than the number.

18 May 2013, 12.17 PM |

M&amp;M

Number is 14 kindly check with your classmates

18 May 2013, 01.13 PM |

Gaurav

Who said A and B have not declared their placements? Check out their websites buddy. And how does one measure the success of placements at an institute? Just by the number of people that are left unplaced? I think it is a lame yardstick. In my opinion, we should look at how many companies recruited from the companies, what profiles did they offer, which big brands participated et al. I am sorry, forget ABC, FMS looks a bit inferior to both IIML and XLRI in this regard. I would put FMS after ABCL, ISB and XLRI as far as placements 2013 are concerned

19 May 2013, 12.26 AM |

Angel&amp;Demons

Last year most magazines had placed FMS ahead on placement parameter compared to the colleges you are referring to having performed better. Expert do give opinion after analysis of all relevant data. I fail to understand your eagerness to compare colleges when most of the colleges have not declared their placement reports.

19 May 2013, 01.11 AM |

Gaurav

Oh the Magazines! The ones which predominantly use ROI as the most important factor for placement rankings which they calculate as (Average Salary of Outgoing Batch)/(Fees paid by the batch). That&#039;s outlandish at best. In one such magazine, they had put FMS ahead of IIM-A. Absolutely jerky. Look at the list of companies and profiles offered at IIM-A. Compare and contrast with those at FMS. You&#039;ll get the difference. Quoting it again. &quot;Just by the number of people that are left unplaced? I think it is a lame yardstick. In my opinion, we should look at how many companies recruited from the companies, what profiles did they offer, which big brands participated et al.&quot;

19 May 2013, 07.35 AM |

Gaurav

Perhaps true. Even if incompetent people make it to the top IIMs, they will not make the cut during placements. And academic background is one of the parameters that are judged during placements. But it is not the only one. So if you do not get a job for yourself, you yourself are to blame for it.

19 May 2013, 07.57 AM |

OVERHYPED MBA

C &amp; L have 220+ reserved category of students, EQUAL to the TOTAL BATCH strength of FMS &amp; XL and almost TWICE that of JB!!!---------&gt; LOL for this part :D :D Seriously funny :) Agree with most of the part here. BTW, since u mentioned a farmer&#039;s son getting placed in GSK, I think I know who that is. &quot;Allah ke banday&quot; live, right? :p

19 May 2013, 04.14 AM |

M&amp;M

Emami has given 40 K /month in IIM-C it has gone below 7.8 LPA . Kindly check facts

19 May 2013, 11.23 AM |

M&amp;M

If you you know anything about MBA colleges in India placement has nothing to do with our marks or an other things it&#039;s truly based on politics and how much contacts you have in placeom.

19 May 2013, 11.29 AM |

Humble Alumni

CTC quoted by the company is 9lpa in the portal. Proportionately, CTC to monthly salary is almost similar with a HUL which might pay 20 but with 80-90 in hand. I am obviously ignoring the bonus structure in both and assuming emami is giving 40k per month as you quoted. The CTC : gross is not something a campus has control of. Go through some HR fundaes and you might understand why company do such variable compensation as a policy matter.

19 May 2013, 11.33 AM |

Humble Alumni

No it is not. Your marks and potential determine the range you will fall into and your personal relations determine how high you can push your case up in life. You can chose not to and still get by on basis of merit and somebody can push his/her case and get a similar placement. Grow up. It is life, inherently unfair. Stop cribbing.

19 May 2013, 11.38 AM |

M&amp;M

May be your are not aware of not holding back CVs in b-schools.Placing one non tanker between 7 takers in GDs. Getting shortlist of 3 people when two have already got a job.Debarring you from placements for an trivial issue.

19 May 2013, 12.21 PM |

Use_Your_Brains

As for Emami giving 40k only, I think that has been cleared by someone far more knowledgeable :) As for the the 2nd part, do u really mean to say that a 60%+ in 10 &amp; 12 (or for that matter 70%+) guy who is best friends with the placecom can get shortlisted for the very best of companies? :o That really does&#039;nt happen AT ALL, my friend :) Yes u do get certain unfair advantages but nothing so HUGE that u are insinuating (&quot;placement has nothing to do with our marks or an other things it&#039;s truly based on politics and how much contacts you have in placecom.&quot;-----aisa nahi hota yaar!). When have u heard a very average profile being picked up on Day-0 (or for that matter even Day-1)? :o What can happen is actually the reverse---- U may have a GREAT profile but the placecom holds back ur CV or other such cheap tactics...... But having an awful profile &amp; still getting placed in the biggest of companies on offer--- that&#039;s not possible.

19 May 2013, 06.57 PM |

M&amp;M

These things have happened and I am eye witness. If you haven&#039;t seen this I can&#039;t say much.

19 May 2013, 07.23 PM |

Ashik Joy

I think that is true man.

9 Feb 2017, 10.51 AM |

Use_Your_Brains

Very bad counter point given here buddy :) The reason behind ISB&#039;s placement related troubles is it&#039;s unsustainable batch size. It is only a 12 year old institute which has taken some gigantic strides &amp; reached the level that it has but it is milking the cow dry &amp; over-extending it&#039;s resources. No way is it in a position to place 770 students. Inspite of all that, would&#039;nt u say it has performed pretty well this year as well--- A massive 421 recruiters offered a total of 798 jobs to the largest class of ISB comprising a total of 762 students across Hyderabad and Mohali campuses. That&#039;s a pretty good figure, is&#039;nt it? :o There were some who did&#039;nt like the job offered to them. The institute thankfully did&#039;nt force them to opt out unlike many colleges that u &amp; I know of &amp; is providing them with more options (30+ companies yet to visit)...... As for MDI having unplaced students &amp; ABC placing all, I cannot believe that u said that. The brand name of IIM ABC is atleast infinite times bigger than MDI is&#039;nt it? :o So the capacity of ABC of placing 400+ students &amp; that of MDI placing 330 students- is it the same? :o IIM ABC are the biggest names in this country (&amp; one of the biggest names in Asia). If they are struggling to place their batch, it&#039;s a given that everyone else (regardless of what criteria they follow) will struggle too. JB, with a minuscule batch of 120, struggled too in placing it&#039;s last 8 students. Unfortunately there is no pvt. college (free from the burden of reservation) at par with ABC, so I cannot give u any example. But XL is in the league of L &amp; FMS, is&#039;nt it? :o Did&#039;nt it struggle much much less when compared to it&#039;s competitors? :o For L, the argument that L&#039;s batch size is almost double , still holds but what about FMS? :o Greater batch size than FMS, locational disadvantage---- still did&#039;nt it beat FMS hands down? :o Why do u think SPJIMR &amp; MDI are giving IIM-K a run for their money? :o [ Did&#039;nt include IIM-I as people are inevitably going to say &quot;because of gigantic batch size&quot;] :)

19 May 2013, 07.27 PM |

Use_Your_Brains

When I said that u should&#039;nt trust any stranger, I did&#039;nt mean that u can associate me with someone else :) Anyways it&#039;s your keyboard, hence u can type anything u want :) Now coming to passing biased opinion, are u really saying that the bottom half does&#039;nt always have a majority of reserved category candidates? :o Well this just prove that u don&#039;t belong to ANY top college of this country. No matter how undesirable it is, it&#039;s still a fact &amp; insiders can corroborate that. People like u, from the outside, are bound to despise that but is&#039;s a fact, my friend. Among the 10-11 unplaced in FMS, if insideiim ever uncovers the truth, I can bet my degree on the fact that atleast 5-6 out of them will be from the reserved category for sure. There is nothing that a college can do if a company does&#039;nt want to settle for sub-standard students (adding to that, there are always those hapless few who are wronged by the placecom or have invited the ire of the placecom, thereby screwing themselves)...... Lacking proper communication skills---&gt; Well that&#039;s a first :) Buddy, Don&#039;t feel bad just because you could&#039;nt make it. :) &quot;Its really unfortunate that people like you make it to IIM C, FMS&quot;---- this sentence reeks of characteristics of a sore loser :D Finally, no I am not going to Joka. They did&#039;nt think I was good enough :) So I am going to a college in the same league (or as per Pagalguy, one step ahead) :)

19 May 2013, 07.47 PM |

M&amp;M

There are college toppers and b-schools toppers unplaced this all happens due to b-schools politics (Verified information). Even people with 99.8%tiles in CAT and good acads have gone to companies with 6-7 LPA in FMS.

19 May 2013, 07.07 PM |

panda

well buddy i guess it would be better for u to place authentic data out here and not just some figment of imagination!!this batch of FMS was not selected on the basis of CAT exam but it was selected by the exam conducted by FMS...FMS has started taking students through CAT from last yr only so i guess u saying 99.8+ perc students getting 6lpa doesn&#039;t break ice !! dude pls do not mislead students just b&#039;coz u don&#039;t like the institute....if u have correct facts which u can corroborate ,only then uu should put them here

19 May 2013, 08.19 PM |

FMS Student

I would like to know from whom you verified this information? Which college topper and bschool topper was unplaced? Apart from the one person with CFA L2, kindly name the people whom you know were toppers and remained unplaced. Also name those students who had 99.8+ percentile in CAT [though in our time, FMS didnt take admission through CAT] and got 6/7 lpa jobs. I am an FMS student [2013 pass out], and I can definitely say you are spreading incorrect information, and writing half truths. I have no idea what your intention is, but the truth is out for anyone to see. @Everyone: Kindly do not go by what some random individuals post on public forums. This is not restricted to FMS but for any other bschool in this regard.

19 May 2013, 09.19 PM |

M&amp;M

Dude kindly check the student got into Max life insurance , and if you are indeed real student you will know his name and his CAT percentile.And if you don&#039;t know kindly call him.And you very will know &quot;Agar baat nikli to door tak jayegi&quot;. Inside IIM has all the information you can&#039;t fool them.

19 May 2013, 10.21 PM |

FMS Student

As mentioned above, for the batch of 2013, admission was done via FMS&#039;s own entrance examination and not CAT. I do not wish to bring reservations into this, but afaik only one General category student was unplaced. And most of the unplaced students had some issue or the other [either in profile, too much work ex, soft skills problem-most common].

19 May 2013, 09.23 PM |

Saber

Point being? Of course there will be some students who will get low paying jobs. Thats the truth everywhere. Not everyone in ABCL XL FMS gets a 15+ lpa job. You will have both ends of the spectrum. People earning 20+ and even some getting less than 10.

19 May 2013, 10.53 PM |

M&amp;M

Point being package quoted by FMS in official report as 16 LPA is totally false and misleading and illegal too.All the facts are with insideiim. So, kindly stop defending the things that are misleading.

20 May 2013, 12.19 AM |

HardFacts

one crucial point is being missed here. every good B-school has its set of recruiters whose packages vary in the range 7-8 to 20+ lpa. Each recruitment season, at least some of the students have to settle for the low paying jobs. the mcfee and oracle guys in this case did sit for at least 20 companies but could not convince the panel and hence lost out on opportunities. Perhaps it was sheer bad luck or possibly they were hell bent on cracking a profile which was simply beyond them. My point is such cases are very typical of b-school placements, a particular institute can not be blamed for this

20 May 2013, 05.24 PM |

Xler

Hmm.. IIT Kgp guy settled for TCS. Out of 5 IIT Kgp guys I know, one went to consult, one Airtel, one Tata Steel one ICICI and another one ITC PPO. Out of 4 guys left, two have got job international job in ICRM..

20 May 2013, 02.36 PM |

Gaurav

Does XLRI collect &quot;category&quot; details in the first place?

20 May 2013, 03.00 PM |

M&amp;M

Yes it does

20 May 2013, 03.50 PM |

Xler_at_ur_service

@ M&amp;M &#039;&#039;XLRI has smallest batch of all with about 66 PPO they had handful of people left to place and after 3rd day of placements they had almost NIL companies so&#039;&#039; Dude the PPO&#039;s dont fall from the skies ...one has to compete with students of best B schools and win the PPO..so 66( greater than 25% batch) ppo&#039;s speak about the quality of students of XLRI compared to other B schools..... ya ur right handful of companies wrere left at end of day 3 cos only 4 students remained...All had offers which they were not willing to take and XL placecomm didint force ne1 else we would have finished placements by Feb 1st week ...the 4 again rejected 4-5 companies in rolling and finally 1 got Tata steel ,2 got i-crm (International offices) and i dont remember where 4th got....so the loans didnt play on these students midn and they didnt setlle for anything less than satisfactory to them cos they knew XL brand name and alum network will ensure they get decent jobs ... I agree the test for XL is this year ...But i am sure again XL will shine ..infact the bigger batch size will help ..180 BM students (all on merit) will ensure companies have a good selection pool and placecomm can call more companies ...So just wait and see the magic happen... and please stop spreading rumours regarding XL relaxing percentiles for SC/ST...the category information is took to award different kinds of scholarships reserved by institutes and government for General and reserved category students ....

20 May 2013, 04.03 PM |

BDC

I am well aware of the process of - Asking candidates to get their SC/ST certificates for GD-PI process...If merit based scholarships need to be awarded they can be done once the batch gets selected and they join the college. No point in asking for these sensitive details even before the &#039;Final Selection&#039;. - Am not sure if there is a Christian/Church/Priest connection either. I am a Christian myself, but, am not sure if there is some level of selection done on that basis.....Not specifically religion, but, rather church affiliation or connection Again, just speculation, but I leave it to the rest to connect the dots.

20 May 2013, 04.52 PM |

M&amp;M

I guess best the things left unsaid.

20 May 2013, 07.42 PM |

Xler

BDC and M&amp;M Don&rsquo;t spout shit just for sake of it. In batch of 2012-14, out of 240 only one Christian (SRCC) is there and two SCs are there, that too with very good academics. Both of them have got scholarship of worth 3 lakh per annum. I wonder how frustrated and obsessed you guys are.

20 May 2013, 08.02 PM |

Gaurav

Yes, the PPO percentage at XLRI is at par with that of IIM Ahmedabad and IIM Bangalore (or perhaps a tad higher). While the quality of PPOs at IIM A and B is better than that at XLRI (in consulting and finance), I would put XLRI ahead of IIM Lucknow and FMS is that respect.

20 May 2013, 08.38 PM |

Another_Xler

ya things are best left unsaid, because there is nothing you can say on this topic to support your claim

20 May 2013, 08.41 PM |

Poser

I have no rason to disagee with you. 66/240 is a fantastic conversion rate for PPO&#039;s. But I would not compare it with other colleges unless seperate data is provided for BM and HR. I would bet my left pinky that the conversion rate for HR is higher than BM thereby making the overall conversion better. Having said that, I am sure even the BM conversion rate would be good but the true picture would only emerge if sepeate data is provided which I doubt will ever happen

23 May 2013, 03.49 PM |

Angel&amp;Demons

Clarification : Its not just about buying Tag, there are other benefits as well in A,B,C. I just meant XLRI similarly to FMS does not give you a brand that has power of conglomerate like IIM

20 May 2013, 09.07 PM |

FMSite

I believe FMS and XLRI are known brand in industry...and IIM brand value is important only for A,B,C

20 May 2013, 09.10 PM |

Xler

Your sample set is way too small to come up with a generalisation. I know few people in my batch had L and FMS convert but joined XL. Having said that, I won&#039;t be making any comparison of colleges on this front. FMS offers MBA degree at very low cost while for XL, expenses are on higher side, But again, you get opportunity to stay in campus, you enjoy campus life and as far as placements are concerned, quality of placement can only be checked during bad times and 2013 batch has been most unlucky one in this respect. About brand IIM which you are talking of, yes ABC are brand but XLRI has also been there for more than 60 years and it is well known brand in industry and academics. &quot;And being associated with XLRI will rather help you more in further education because of name Jesuits have made over the centuries.&quot;

24 May 2013, 11.09 AM |