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25 February, 2019

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The Elite MBB League Expands To 7 Top Indian Business Schools!

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3. IIM Calcutta

4. IIM Kozhikode

5. IIM Lucknow

6. ISB Hyderabad

7. XLRI Jamshedpur

Also Check: Top Consulting Firms in India | InsideIIM Survey

This is a powerful indication of campus quality in the eyes of the world's most prestigious and selective strategy consulting firms. The MBB firms don't compromise on the quality of candidates they recruit. They target the 'cream of the cream' a.k.a. the best of the best at each of these campuses. While there may be more MBB-quality candidates at an IIM-A versus one of the others, each of them does have their share of MBB-quality candidates. (E.g., BCG made 20 offers at IIMA but 10 offers at XLRI) This is an important fact that the recruitment heads at each of these firms will confirm - it's not just an 'ABC' that has that candidate quality - but then anyone who has worked alongside graduates of ABC and any other top business school in the same company will know this.

It's not entirely surprising that three new campuses joined this exclusive MBB club this year - the fourth IIM (IIM Lucknow), the fifth IIM (IIM Kozhikode) and XLRI have all had McKinsey and BCG recruiting over multiple years. Bain expanded its campus list this year and these three campuses were the only ones (other than IIMs ABC and ISB) that have shown an enviable track record of having multiple alumni go on to become Partners at the most prestigious of the three - McKinsey & Company a.k.a. 'the Gods of Strategy'.

Placement reports miss a lot of nuances and can be a bit misleading at times. Several other campuses claim to have some of these firms but it's important to understand the full story, for example:

- Bain's research arm Bain Capability Center recruits separately from Bain & Company for a completely separate career track and they went to MDI Gurgaon and IIM Indore

- McKinsey *participated* in SP Jain's placements for an Implementation role, again a completely different career track from the strategy consulting track.

- McKinsey *participated* in placements at FMS but made ZERO offers as no student could convert their process, which means FMS has got no offers from McKinsey for the last four years - a strong indictment of student quality at FMS versus the other 7 campuses mentioned above.

Editor's Note: Verification from the FMS Placement Committee reveals that McKinsey made an offer at FMS Delhi. The institute has also furnished Team InsideIIM with the name(s) of the student(s) hired by McKinsey & Co.

You can check out their detailed FMS Placement Report here.

*The opinions expressed in this publication are those of the author. They do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of Team InsideIIM.*

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Rohit Baheti

I think your data or sense of how Consulting companies have hired is not quite accurate. 1) BCG first started hiring beyond IIM ABCL and ISB Hyderabad in 2011 at IIM Indore and XLRI Jamshedpur. FMS Delhi was added 2 years later and IIM Kozhikode 4 years later. BCG has then also looked at MDI Gurgaon and NMIMS Mumbai off and on since then. 2) In the last 10 years, XLRI, JBIMS, SPJIMR and IIM Indore have contributed the maximum number of hires at Mckinsey & Co. outside of IIM ABCL and ISB Hyderabad. I'd also request you to share the sources of your data above.

2 Mar 2019, 10.55 AM

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Campus Insight

Haha perhaps you can do the same and share the sources of your data above? Especially the second claim? (I had to laugh so hard given how false it is) And what specific statement of the article above do you dispute or say is not accurate and what data do you have to counter that specific statement? I recruit at all these campuses and have data sources within all three of these firms.

2 Mar 2019, 03.12 PM |

Campus Insight

Let's take SPJIMR for example. Can you kindly provide links to public LinkedIn profiles of people who have been recruited by McKinsey as JAs in the last 10 years? :-) LinkedIn is public information - nothing confidential there - so should be easy for you no?

2 Mar 2019, 03.38 PM |

Campus Insight

A lot of the information in the article above is also publicly verifiable through google search :-) For example the MDI and IIM Indore placement reports clearly mentioned Bain Capability Centre recruited there. Stating this fact does not put either campus in a bad light - it just states a fact for the benefit of the community. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/jobs/google-makes-rs-40-79-lakh-a-year-offer-at-management-development-institute/articleshow/67532281.cms https://www.ndtv.com/education/iim-indore-placement-2018-summer-internship-sees-24-per-cent-increase-in-average-stipend-offers-1940133

2 Mar 2019, 03.54 PM |

Campus Insight

Once we get your response with publicly available proof of McKinsey hiring JAs from SP Jain, we should ask Team InsideIIM to update their profile of McKinsey which states - 'McKinsey & Company hire only from the premier management institutes of the country, which for India are IIM A, B, C, L, I, K, ISB Hyderabad XLRI Jamshedpur, JBIMS and FMS. The firm hires MBA candidates as Junior Associates.' It would be so unfair of them to have omitted SPJIMR no? Check it out here - https://insideiim.com/mckinsey-co-company-review/

2 Mar 2019, 04.02 PM |

Campus Insight

So we looked hard on Linkedin and google and couldn't find a single SP Jain / SPJIMR person recruited as a Junior Associate by McKinsey as is the case with the 7 campuses mentioned in the article above, where McKinsey recruits from. There are some SPJIMR alumni who have joined McKinsey laterally in assorted roles including product management, etc. SP Jain did have McKinsey Knowledge Center recruiting according to MBA Universe - https://www.mbauniverse.com/article/id/921 McKC is obviously a very different value proposition ;-) McKC may be at SPJIMR but it doesn't recruit at the 7 campuses in the article above :-) McKinsey dropped IIM Indore years back. For proof, please read the placement reports for the last few years and you will find no mention of McKinsey: 2017 official placement report - https://www.iimidr.ac.in/news-events/iim-indore-final-placements-2017/ 2016 and 2018 - https://www.iimidr.ac.in/placements/final-placement/ You have lost all credibility with your tall claims above. I get you're trying to defend your alma mater - but you do more damage because the misrepresentation is laid bare for all to see ..

4 Mar 2019, 12.37 AM |

McKinsey dropped IIM Indore years back. For proof, please read the placement reports for the last few years and you will find no mention of McKinsey:
2017 official placement report - https://www.iimidr.ac.in/news-events/iim-indore-final-placements-2017/
2016 and 2018 - https://www.iimidr.ac.in/placements/final-placement/

You have lost all credibility with your tall claims above. I get you're trying to defend your alma mater - but you do more damage because the misrepresentation is laid bare for all to see ..

Rohit Baheti

Have you got the final placement report of either of the two yet?

5 Mar 2019, 11.53 AM |

Rohit Baheti

I request Team InsideIIM to not give importance to this anonymous handle and the stories they are publishing and the comments they are writing on various placement reports. There is a clear agenda to show FMS Delhi, IIM Indore and JBIMS in poor light. Just go and look at InsideIIM's alum report and see the track record of these schools and where alums of these schools are currently.

2 Mar 2019, 11.19 AM

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Campus Insight

I get that your ego is wounded given your alma mater does not make the cut above :-) My agenda is to provide transparency and bust through the smoke and mirrors that many placement committees put up. I have not made a single statement in the article above about JBIMS or anywhere - so your claim above is false. You have not disputed and provided counter to a single statement in the article above. And how do we know you *really* are? Focus on the facts - for the benefit of this community let's deal in facts

2 Mar 2019, 03.18 PM |

Rohit Baheti

Mckinsey 2014 - JBIMS 2015 - IIM Indore 2016 - JBIMS 2017 - JBIMS 2018 - JBIMS I can even give you the names of all the above people who have joined in the 'Junior Associate' role at McKinsey.

5 Mar 2019, 11.51 AM |

Campus Insight

Can you also give the names of all / any SPJIMR grads who have joined in the 'Junior Associate' role in the last 10 years? Extensive google and Linkedin search shows none. You mentioned SPJIMR along with XLRI et al and I called you out immediately. LinkedIn says you Rohit Baheti are from the 2008 batch of SPJIMR. I'll leave it there and let the community form their own opinion about you, your credibility and everything you've said on this platform

5 Mar 2019, 09.17 PM |

Rohit Baheti

This is to clarify that I'm not Rohit Baheti from SPJIMR. Please leave the poor guy alone. Please allow for the possibility that there are multiple Rohit Baheti's in India. Thanks.

7 Mar 2019, 11.58 AM |

Rahul Saini

And what makes these three firms so special? Is strategy consulting in MBB the only reason you do an MBA for?

3 Mar 2019, 08.15 PM

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Rohit Baheti

I completely agree. This guy is likely a alum of IIM Kozhikode who wants to show his one time superiority for having gotten Mckinsey and Bain for the first time. Its one season and the first time. Wants to call his campus elite and hence focussing on these 2-3 consulting firms. As if the whole world wants to just do Consulting.

5 Mar 2019, 11.53 AM |

Campus Insight

I normally don't stoop to the level of such immature and petty comments but sometimes you need to school people like this for the good of the community, so here goes: 1. I'm actually an alum of IIMA working at one of the MBB firms who recruits extensively and who has seen a lot of misrepresentation Placement Committees do across campuses 2. Even IF I was an alum of IIM Kozhikode or any of the other new entrants to the MBB Club - IIML and XLRI - how does that matter? The article above is fact based and you have not disproved a single statement. The intent is purely to give aspirants and the world transparency on the actual truth, when placement reports are mispresentative 3. Bain actually added FIVE campuses this year - IIML, IIMK, XLRI, FMS and SP Jain - and made multiple offers at each. So by your logic this would be 'one time' for all these campuses? Unless the economy collapses and there is war with Pakistan, that is unlikely - it's a big decision for any MBB firm to add new campuses and they have actually made offers at each which means they're ok with all five 4. You say IIM has got McKinsey for the first time. I did a simple google and found this - https://www.pagalguy.com/articles/salary-up-by-3038-pc-diverse-roles-offered-at-iim-k-final-placements-16213 - which indicates that McKinsey has been recruiting at IIMK since 2007. The name of the person they hired that year is mentioned in the article - search for him on google or Linkedin and you will see he has gone on to become a Partner at McKinsey. Similar search would find multiple more people joining McKinsey from IIMK since 2007. But you didn't want to search did you - this was a blatant falsehood. 5. I just discovered that both you Rohit Baheti (SPJIMR 2008) and Rahul Saini (IIM Ranchi 2019) have been commenting on the IIMK placement report in the same vein as your comments above. I will let the community decide what your underlying motives are 6. Rohit, I told a SPJIMR friend that a SPJIMR alum was busy making false claims and attacks on other campuses - he said it was a huge embarassment for SPJIMR. Something for you to reflect on 7. Rohit and Rahul - I won't bother to answer the question on what's special about the MBB firms. If you read InsideIIM's dream company list, it will perhaps educate you - https://insideiim.com/which-are-the-dream-companies-on-top-business-school-campuses-insideiim-recruitment-survey-2016-part-12/ but if your dream company post-MBA is ICICI Bank, then that's absolutely ok. Really. The whole world does not want to do consulting. P.S. 8. Who said I was a guy? On women's day, it's ironic what sexism and bias there is that you assumed I was a man

5 Mar 2019, 09.37 PM |

I normally don't stoop to the level of such immature and petty comments but sometimes you need to school people like this for the good of the community, so here goes:
1. I'm actually an alum of IIMA working at one of the MBB firms who recruits extensively and who has seen a lot of misrepresentation Placement Committees do across campuses
2. Even IF I was an alum of IIM Kozhikode or any of the other new entrants to the MBB Club - IIML and XLRI - how does that matter? The article above is fact based and you have not disproved a single statement. The intent is purely to give aspirants and the world transparency on the actual truth, when placement reports are mispresentative
3. Bain actually added FIVE campuses this year - IIML, IIMK, XLRI, FMS and SP Jain - and made multiple offers at each. So by your logic this would be 'one time' for all these campuses? Unless the economy collapses and there is war with Pakistan, that is unlikely - it's a big decision for any MBB firm to add new campuses and they have actually made offers at each which means they're ok with all five
4. You say IIM has got McKinsey for the first time. I did a simple google and found this - https://www.pagalguy.com/articles/salary-up-by-3038-pc-diverse-roles-offered-at-iim-k-final-placements-16213 - which indicates that McKinsey has been recruiting at IIMK since 2007. The name of the person they hired that year is mentioned in the article - search for him on google or Linkedin and you will see he has gone on to become a Partner at McKinsey. Similar search would find multiple more people joining McKinsey from IIMK since 2007. But you didn't want to search did you - this was a blatant falsehood. 
5. I just discovered that both you Rohit Baheti (SPJIMR 2008) and Rahul Saini (IIM Ranchi 2019) have been commenting on the IIMK placement report in the same vein as your comments above. I will let the community decide what your underlying motives are
6. Rohit, I told a SPJIMR friend that a SPJIMR alum was busy making false claims and attacks on other campuses - he said it was a huge embarassment for SPJIMR. Something for you to reflect on
7. Rohit and Rahul - I won't bother to answer the question on what's special about the MBB firms. If you read InsideIIM's dream company list, it will perhaps educate you - https://insideiim.com/which-are-the-dream-companies-on-top-business-school-campuses-insideiim-recruitment-survey-2016-part-12/ but if your dream company post-MBA is ICICI Bank, then that's absolutely ok. Really. The whole world does not want to do consulting.
P.S.
8. Who said I was a guy? On women's day, it's ironic what sexism and bias there is that you assumed I was a man

Rahul Saini

Let me give a point by point reply to your statements here. To be honest, I really don't have the will or the resolve to read long paragraphs but since you replied point wise, it would be good to address all those so here you go: "1. I’m actually an alum of IIMA working at one of the MBB firms who recruits extensively and who has seen a lot of misrepresentation Placement Committees do across campuses" - I don't care if you are Donald trump - but if you end up shoving things down the throat of would be aspirants, I would bust your bubble even if you lie from under the depths of the ocean, so you really don't need to give your credentials. Lets get back to work and "Facts" 2. Even IF I was an alum of IIM Kozhikode or any of the other new entrants to the MBB Club – IIML and XLRI – how does that matter? The article above is fact based and you have not disproved a single statement. The intent is purely to give aspirants and the world transparency on the actual truth, when placement reports are mispresentative " - Why do you have to dedicate a whole "article" saying Mc kinsey has added some 7 institutes to its foray. The fact that Mc kinsey recruited on some institute for the first time does not make any news. Aspirants are well aware of the fact that colleges release placement reports for anyone to go and verify and if you want to say that you are the single source of truth hiding under the cloak of anonymity, it makes your intentions even more suspect. I also see you questioning the FMS report in another thread, if you put something up here for the goodwill of the aspirants, they put something there for the goodwill of the aspirants, you question their recruitment from your "Sources" in the company funnily when you clearly said that you work in Mckinsey, this makes the whole thing suspect. I will bust your IIM K bubble a little bit later citing your reports in a while though. 3. Bain actually added FIVE campuses this year – IIML, IIMK, XLRI, FMS and SP Jain – and made multiple offers at each. So by your logic this would be ‘one time’ for all these campuses? Unless the economy collapses and there is war with Pakistan, that is unlikely – it’s a big decision for any MBB firm to add new campuses and they have actually made offers at each which means they’re ok with all five " -Just as per your below analysis, Mc kinsey hiredy from IIM in 2007 for some role we don't know and then Mc kinsey was absent ever since until we see them in the 2017 report. So by your logic were we having a war with Pakistan all this while since 2007? Silly logic though. Is that how you convince your clients? "4. You say IIM has got McKinsey for the first time. I did a simple google and found this – https://www.pagalguy.com/articles/salary-up-by-3038-pc-diverse-roles-offered-at-iim-k-final-placements-16213 – which indicates that McKinsey has been recruiting at IIMK since 2007. The name of the person they hired that year is mentioned in the article – search for him on google or Linkedin and you will see he has gone on to become a Partner at McKinsey. Similar search would find multiple more people joining McKinsey from IIMK since 2007. But you didn’t want to search did you – this was a blatant falsehood." - I did a similar search on Linkedin - there is no body ever since at a senior level. There is someone call Suveer sinha who is again a lateral hire. The fact that Mckinsey stopped hiring from IIM K post 2007 makes the student pool even more suspect. "5. I just discovered that both you Rohit Baheti (SPJIMR 2008) and Rahul Saini (IIM Ranchi 2019) have been commenting on the IIMK placement report in the same vein as your comments above. I will let the community decide what your underlying motives are" - I am laughing at your shabby research right now because you got neither the year nor the institute correct. Wondering what kind of students you recruit. "6. Rohit, I told a SPJIMR friend that a SPJIMR alum was busy making false claims and attacks on other campuses – he said it was a huge embarassment for SPJIMR. Something for you to reflect on" - What are you even trying to say here? You need to make more coherent statements. I don't think you make coherent statements. If you want to say that someone would defame IIM Ranchi because I ended up defaming some other college - Say it clearly, haven't you learned about SPP - Short Precise to the point statements? Goes to show the lack of structured thinking in your approach. Typical Indian B school grad. And yes, I don;t care, I will spill out the facts even if it defames some college. "7. Rohit and Rahul – I won’t bother to answer the question on what’s special about the MBB firms. If you read InsideIIM’s dream company list, it will perhaps educate you – https://insideiim.com/which-are-the-dream-companies-on-top-business-school-campuses-insideiim-recruitment-survey-2016-part-12/ but if your dream company post-MBA is ICICI Bank, then that’s absolutely ok. Really. The whole world does not want to do consulting." - Of course the whole world does not want to do consulting and mane also want to get into top marketing firms as well. Such a average to low average show in Marketing and Finance function at IIM K. I do not see RB/Jhonson and Jhonson/Nivea/L'oreal/Benetton/Uber/Google/Marico/Coke/Pepsi/Pernord Ricard/Castrol/Redull/Henkel/Mars/Heinz. I don't see where they are in the IIM K report. I don't see P&G, Mercer, Mearsk, GE, Abott, AbinBev, Bombardier, Boeng, BMW, Langham capital, Avendus capital, JLT as well. I see an HUL -Probably one guy for the coll and boom, nothing else. I do see companies like Vguard, Payoneer, HCCB, Obusiness, TCS, Feedback infra, Latentview (Seriously is this even a company guys?), aspect ratio, Coromandel. Of course whole world might not want consulting, but I am sure no body would want to be in these companies being from a so call "IIM". Getting 1-2 odd new companies in the campus one year does not hide the fact that so many kids get into such substandard companies which later either close offices or end up giving them inconsistent roles. I know for a fact so many kids from the mentioned coll end up getting substandard roles in substandard companies. IIM K says 107 companies visited the campus but gives a list of only 90, wondering what kind of companies the rest 17 would have been P.S. "8. Who said I was a guy? On women’s day, it’s ironic what sexism and bias there is that you assumed I was a man"" - won't even bother replying to this.

6 Mar 2019, 06.11 PM |

"1. I’m actually an alum of IIMA working at one of the MBB firms who recruits extensively and who has seen a lot of misrepresentation Placement Committees do across campuses" - I don't care if you are Donald trump - but if you end up shoving things down the throat of would be aspirants, I would bust your bubble even if you lie from under the depths of the ocean, so you really don't need to give your credentials. Lets get back to work and "Facts"
2. Even IF I was an alum of IIM Kozhikode or any of the other new entrants to the MBB Club – IIML and XLRI – how does that matter? The article above is fact based and you have not disproved a single statement. The intent is purely to give aspirants and the world transparency on the actual truth, when placement reports are mispresentative "

-  Why do you have to dedicate a whole "article" saying Mc kinsey has added some 7 institutes to its foray. The fact that Mc kinsey recruited on some institute for the first time does not make any news. Aspirants are well aware of the fact that colleges release placement reports for anyone to go and verify and if you want to say that you are the single source of truth hiding under the cloak of anonymity, it makes your intentions even more suspect. I also see you questioning the FMS report in another thread, if you put something up here for the goodwill of the aspirants, they put something there for the goodwill of the aspirants, you question their recruitment from your "Sources" in the company funnily when you clearly said that you work in Mckinsey, this makes the whole thing suspect. I will bust your IIM K bubble a little bit later citing your reports in a while though.
3. Bain actually added FIVE campuses this year – IIML, IIMK, XLRI, FMS and SP Jain – and made multiple offers at each. So by your logic this would be ‘one time’ for all these campuses? Unless the economy collapses and there is war with Pakistan, that is unlikely – it’s a big decision for any MBB firm to add new campuses and they have actually made offers at each which means they’re ok with all five  "

-Just as per your below analysis, Mc kinsey hiredy from IIM in 2007 for some role we don't know and then Mc kinsey was absent ever since until we see them in the 2017 report. So by your logic were we having a war with Pakistan all this while since 2007? Silly logic though. Is that how you convince your clients?

"4. You say IIM has got McKinsey for the first time. I did a simple google and found this – https://www.pagalguy.com/articles/salary-up-by-3038-pc-diverse-roles-offered-at-iim-k-final-placements-16213 – which indicates that McKinsey has been recruiting at IIMK since 2007. The name of the person they hired that year is mentioned in the article – search for him on google or Linkedin and you will see he has gone on to become a Partner at McKinsey. Similar search would find multiple more people joining McKinsey from IIMK since 2007. But you didn’t want to search did you – this was a blatant falsehood." -

I did a similar search on Linkedin - there is no body ever since at a senior level. There is someone call Suveer sinha who is again a lateral hire. The fact that Mckinsey stopped hiring from IIM K post 2007 makes the student pool even more suspect.

"5. I just discovered that both you Rohit Baheti (SPJIMR 2008) and Rahul Saini (IIM Ranchi 2019) have been commenting on the IIMK placement report in the same vein as your comments above. I will let the community decide what your underlying motives are" 
- I am laughing at your shabby research right now because you got neither the year nor the institute correct. Wondering what kind of students you recruit.

"6. Rohit, I told a SPJIMR friend that a SPJIMR alum was busy making false claims and attacks on other campuses – he said it was a huge embarassment for SPJIMR. Something for you to reflect on" - What are you even trying to say here? You need to make more coherent statements. I don't think you make coherent statements. If you want to say that someone would defame IIM Ranchi because I ended up defaming some other college - Say it clearly, haven't you learned about SPP - Short Precise to the point statements? Goes to show the lack of structured thinking in your approach. Typical Indian B school grad. And yes, I don;t care, I will spill out the facts even if it defames some college.

"7. Rohit and Rahul – I won’t bother to answer the question on what’s special about the MBB firms. If you read InsideIIM’s dream company list, it will perhaps educate you – https://insideiim.com/which-are-the-dream-companies-on-top-business-school-campuses-insideiim-recruitment-survey-2016-part-12/ but if your dream company post-MBA is ICICI Bank, then that’s absolutely ok. Really. The whole world does not want to do consulting."

- Of course the whole world does not want to do consulting and mane also want to get into top marketing firms as well. Such a average to low average show in Marketing and Finance function at IIM K. I do not see RB/Jhonson and Jhonson/Nivea/L'oreal/Benetton/Uber/Google/Marico/Coke/Pepsi/Pernord Ricard/Castrol/Redull/Henkel/Mars/Heinz. I don't see where they are in the IIM K report. I don't see P&amp;G, Mercer, Mearsk, GE, Abott, AbinBev, Bombardier, Boeng, BMW, Langham capital, Avendus capital, JLT as well.  I see an HUL -Probably one guy for the coll and boom, nothing else. I do see companies like Vguard, Payoneer, HCCB, Obusiness, TCS, Feedback infra, Latentview (Seriously is this even a company guys?), aspect ratio, Coromandel. Of course whole world might not want consulting, but I am sure no body would want to be in these companies being from a so call "IIM". Getting 1-2 odd new companies in the campus one year does not hide the fact that so many kids get into such substandard companies which later either close offices or end up giving them inconsistent roles. I know for a fact so many kids from the mentioned coll end up getting substandard roles in substandard companies. IIM K says 107 companies visited the campus but gives a list of only 90, wondering what kind of companies the rest 17 would have been
P.S.
"8. Who said I was a guy? On women’s day, it’s ironic what sexism and bias there is that you assumed I was a man"" - won't even bother replying to this.

Rohit Baheti

This is to clarify that I'm not Rohit Baheti from SPJIMR. Please leave the poor guy alone. Please allow for the possibility that there are multiple Rohit Baheti's in India. Thanks. IIM Kozhikode has often published fake placement reports for years. At least prior to 2015 there were many instances. Also, IIM Kozhikode has had batch day recruitments only prior to this. At SPJIMR and IIM Indore Mckinsey has physically visited campus years ago. It is possible they don't recruit regularly anymore. And yes there is no guarantee that either Mckinsey or Bain will visit any of the new campuses they've added this year.

7 Mar 2019, 12.01 PM |

Rahul Saini

@rohitbaheti - I have some queries in the IIM K placement report. Can you please see if you agree. Please refer to the last comment in the below link from me: https://insideiim.com/iim-kozhikode-final-placements-pgp-2017-2019/#comment-49482

7 Mar 2019, 01.08 PM |

Campus Insight

Rohit Baheti - unfortunately you have lost all credibility with your falsehoods (a less polite person would call them LIES), including you saying: 1) You insinuated that McKinsey has made offers at SPJIMR in the previous 10 years - no one could find a single instance of McKinsey hiring a Junior Associate from SPJIMR in the last 10 years. The few SPJIMR alumni at McKinsey joined laterally in other non mainstream consulting roles e.g. 'Product Manager' 2. You claimed that McKinsey went to IIM K for the first time this year - a simple google search reveals that McKinsey has been recruiting and making offers there since 2007 So when you continue to make factless claims about IIM K publishing 'fake placement reports', it's hard for me or anyone else to take you seriously. If you at least put down some facts, people from that campus could take you to the cleaners just like I have with your other claims. If one had to guess why you - and the kid from IIM Ranchi - are fixated on trolling IIM K, one would guess you're bitter that you didn't get in, but a simpler explanation might be from understanding the psychology of internet trolls like you - 'Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.' :-) (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists)

8 Mar 2019, 12.20 PM |

Rohit Baheti - unfortunately you have lost all credibility with your falsehoods (a less polite person would call them LIES), including you saying:
1) You insinuated that McKinsey has made offers at SPJIMR in the previous 10 years - no one could find a single instance of McKinsey hiring a Junior Associate from SPJIMR in the last 10 years. The few SPJIMR alumni at McKinsey joined laterally in other non mainstream consulting roles e.g. 'Product Manager'
2. You claimed that McKinsey went to IIM K for the first time this year - a simple google search reveals that McKinsey has been recruiting and making offers there since 2007
So when you continue to make factless claims about IIM K publishing 'fake placement reports', it's hard for me or anyone else to take you seriously. If you at least put down some facts, people from that campus could take you to the cleaners just like I have with your other claims. If one had to guess why you - and the kid from IIM Ranchi - are fixated on trolling IIM K, one would guess you're bitter that you didn't get in, but a simpler explanation might be from understanding the psychology of internet trolls like you - 'Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.' :-)
(https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists)

joshua ap

Haha exactly! People rave about MBBs as if they were the only career track. People cry about jobs so much in India. I’d say I truly respect ABC for the number of entrepreneurs it produces and not for the people it sends to MBBs. MBBs exist because of the business they get from these great thinking entrepreneurs. It’s funny and tragic at the same time when a B-School aspirant’s ‘only dream’ is to get a job at MBB. Stop defining yourself by an acronym. Create jobs yourself.

10 Mar 2019, 06.18 PM |

Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

I don’t think you know real facts about placements at top bschools. No one leaves campus and starts as an entrepreneur. With 20 lakh loan, only if your Dad is Ambani will you try and become an entrepreneur as soon as you graduate. So most MBAs first go and work somewhere, get some good experience and then start their own companies. Many are from MBB because of best good work ex and learning. You don’t need MBA or even Bachelors degree to be an entrepreneur and create jobs, just look at Ritesh bhai of Oyo!

10 Mar 2019, 09.32 PM |

Rahul Saini

Funny thing is the college you are trolling here has only 40K as the ENTIRE MBA FEES. Did your argument just shit in its pants?

11 Mar 2019, 11.48 AM |

Rahul Saini

Yes.. The kid from IIM Ranchi is trolling IIM K placement report because his ex GF got into IIM K with a mere 85 percentile with a decent academic record while he with a 97+ percentile couldn't make it. PS - He made it to IIM B- Sorry to bust your bubble though Ms psychology.

11 Mar 2019, 11.51 AM |

Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

Lmao Mr Troll Retro! Now the truth comes out about why you troll. Boss if you think your percentile in exam is only thing that gets you into a business school then don’t know what to say. There is undergrad, work-ex etc and then GD and interview also bhai. Now that we can see your personality I don’t think anyone is surprised that you didn’t or wouldn’t have cleared the GD and interview!!! You are not fit for IIMB. No IIMB student wastes their time trolling on this website. Bhai use your time at IIM Ranchi better.

11 Mar 2019, 01.20 PM |

Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

Retro troll bhai your reading comprehension is absolute fail. Joshua ap clearly mentioned ABC. Even for MBA college with 40k fees can you give details on what percentage of students became entrepreneurs when they finished? Keep your insults and bad language to the gutter where you live pls boss

11 Mar 2019, 01.23 PM |

Rahul Saini

Mr Raju - Thanks for suggesting me to use my time better at IIM Ranchi. I will definitely take your advise if in case I join IIM Ranchi in another parallel universe some other time. But for sure, if there is someone who can make it to IIM at 85 percentile, I will surely have doubts about the quality of the institute. Bande/Bandi ka kya hai.. uski koi galti thodi hai,..wo to bechara kisi tareh paise kamane ka zariya dhund raha hai.. The institute is to blame.. And guess what when you take in someone with such a super quantitative ability and put them in your placement committee.. you help them make more blunders which again solidifies the argument I was making earlier. When you don't understand how to lie perfectly, you should always tell the truth otherwise this will happen - take a look, I am sure this blunder must have been done by someone similar: https://insideiim.com/iim-kozhikode-final-placements-pgp-2017-2019/#comment-49482 And comment on the finding.

11 Mar 2019, 01.46 PM |

Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

Retro you are too funny boss. Asking other people to also go troll IIMK report. Maybe rohit baheti who is in same IIMK reject boat as you will say yes to you. I don’t have answer to your question on the IIMK report but anyone will trust them more than you. I think all applicants like me don’t care about your trolling of any business school. This article also shows that it is one of 7 MBB campuses. So please go recruit someone else for your IIMK trolling project hero. Everyone, especially your ex gf who is at IIM K is only laughing at you

11 Mar 2019, 02.15 PM |

Rahul Saini

Raju Singh ji, "I don’t have answer to your question on the IIMK report but anyone will trust them more than you" I got the answer :D - That you have no answer. And with respect to the GF of the IIM Ranchi/Bangalore guy - Yes she would be laughing at him working late hours at CoroMandel making fertilizers for a good cause while he frets himself in an AC office in the Netherlands earning 5 times as much working 8 hours a day having lost the opportunity to serve his homeland. Of course.

11 Mar 2019, 03.24 PM |

Campus Insight

Rahul Saini from FMS (https://m.facebook.com/people/Rahul-Saini/1710343834) you’ve been so busy trolling here and on Quora - https://www.quora.com/profile/Rahul-Saini-143 - I should give you some fun statistics on how many offers BCG made at some campuses this season, since we’re on the topic of MBB in this article. Please try and dispute it :-) IIMA - 20 XLRI - 10 IIMK - 8 FMS - 3 I’ll let these numbers speak for themselves. My small service to aspirants who want to join the MBB firms ;-)

12 Mar 2019, 04.33 PM |

Rahul Saini

HaHa Ha..Can Campus insight give Ids of all those who made it to BCG from IIM K? As per you everyone should update their records on "Linkedin" right? Can you provide their links with the righ role name please?

22 Mar 2019, 03.53 PM |

Campus Insight

@InsideIIM team @FMSPlacements team, kindly clarify publicly what ROLE McKinsey hired one person for at FMS. Multiple sources have said that no one cleared the final round for the Junior Associate role - which is the standard strategy consulting role which McKinsey hired for at the above 7 campuses. I have asked multiple times on the FMS placement report for the FMS team to public clarify this - and for the InsideIIM team to validate the role.

5 Mar 2019, 01.17 AM

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Aravind KR

Apparently according to you, its the duty of others to take effort and prove something to you that have clearly written wrong instead of you yourself having some level of ‘authenticity’ before publishing such baseless information. I pity the organisation you are working in and indeed the clients, hard to expect honesty as well as reliability.

10 Mar 2019, 09.33 PM |

Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

Aravind bhai please show the author has said wrong things and say what role Mckinsey gave at FMS. Every time someone from FMS keeps hiding this info it makes FMS look even badder

10 Mar 2019, 09.41 PM |

Aravind KR

Is it too difficult to comprehend which role it is when someones says this info is wrong?

10 Mar 2019, 09.49 PM |

Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

I’m not understanding you Aravind bhai. Are you saying that FMS made offer for Junior Associate role at FMS? Pls confirm cos author has said it did not

10 Mar 2019, 09.53 PM |

Aravind KR

Everything was already communicated to insideiim team, which they had verified and even added as a comment under placement reports article. You can go and read that. Why some random profiles just enjoying the liberty to post whatever story or comment as they want deserve explanation?

10 Mar 2019, 10.09 PM |

Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

Insideiim team has not confirmed what role Mckinsey made at FMS. Only that the company made an offer. Why is everyone hiding this information on what role was made? Insideiim team please also add what exact role was offered at FMS cos no one from FMS is confirming

10 Mar 2019, 10.18 PM |

Aravind KR

Dude, it was Junior associate role. Now if you want more details, post your REAL NAME and linkedIn profile here..lets talk there instead of you posting from different fake handles 'campusInsight', 'Rajusingh' and what not...Let's see your real identity first before further conversation

23 Mar 2019, 05.04 PM |

Uttam Gulshan

Another faking report from this faking agency!

9 Mar 2019, 10.49 PM

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Raju Singh

Curious. Innovative. Want to work on cool stuff.

Uttam bhai, please tell what role Mckinsey made offer for in FMS? Why everyone from FMS is hiding truth on this? Embarrassed kya? Not expected from institute like FMS

10 Mar 2019, 09.36 PM |

Uttam Gulshan

Oh. We are hiding the truth? Oh Please. Stop faking around. Are you ashamed of posting your sources publicly? Where did you find that there were 0 offers in last 4 years? You think that by saying that we are embarrassed you have won the argument? Tell me your source. Raju Bhai please, tell me where are you getting the fake info from? or are you trying to make your college look better by demeaning certain institutions? You already might know that we have stopped any communication from your faking agency, so you are now trying to get some info from me. Please, I won't tell you the role. You already know so much about campuses. So, why don't you write the role name yourself? I think it totally reflects your quality and the quality of students from your college whoever are supporting it for propagating fake info in the public.

11 Mar 2019, 08.29 PM |

Uttam Gulshan

And why are you guys changing your name continuously? If you are so genuine, why are you using different names? First Smriti Singh, then Raju Singh? Write your name openly. I want to know what agency is this and who is running the same? Seems like you know too much about insider information. And if you do, why don't you tell about your own campus student quality?

11 Mar 2019, 08.33 PM

Uttam Gulshan

And one last thing. IIM A might have produced a student like you who likes to disrespect other institutions and try to propagate fake news about other institutes. However, we as FMS students, do not believe in demeaning other institutions publicly. We have taken the decision that we are not going to communicate anything from you guys and that is final. No one is ever going to give any information to you or your agency. If you are already working at BCG, better focus on your work rather than commenting on others. You think that by publicly defaming, you can prove you or yourself better, you are wrong. I am closing my comments on this and I won't explain anything more. People would eventually know what the truth is. And If I get to know your real name, I'll first file an open defamation case against you and then tell you the role that McKinsey gave.

11 Mar 2019, 09.07 PM

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Campus Insight

Haha the manufactured anger of all you young boys from FMS really is cute. You boys are hoping the shouting will distract people from the fact that no one has revealed what role McKinsey actually made an offer for at FMS. You're right that people will eventually know the truth in a couple of months. Every one who joins MBB in the regular consulting profiles will update their Linkedin with their role name. Let's see if any McKinsey Junior Associate from FMS emerges on Linkedin in a few months. The burden of proof is on all of you. Also, here are sources for FMS hiring for the last 3 years also: FMS placement report 2018 - no mention of McKinsey - http://www.fms.edu/?q=node/1611 FMS placement report 2017 - no mention of McKinsey - http://www.fms.edu/?q=node/1585 FMS placement report 2016 - no mention of McKinsey - https://www.mbauniverse.com/article/id/9332/FMS-Delhi-Placement PS. Open defamation case? You're so cute Uttam. That might scare kids in FMS. Adults not really

11 Mar 2019, 10.40 PM |

Rahul Saini

She is Smriti Singh on Quora - She is super excited to tell the world that Mckinsey just started visiting IIM K which is the ultimate motive of being an "IIM" in India. Here you go: https://www.quora.com/profile/Smriti-Singh-650 She changed her name from Campus Insights to Santosh Kumar because someone called her bluff and reported on Quora. Then when someone reported her fake name, she changed to Smriti Singh to hide under the cloak of feminism. Hah! Take that Quorans!

11 Mar 2019, 10.48 PM |

Campus Insight

Wow Retro you're so smart. Given you also haven't revealed your identity here or on Quora, I bet you're the same person as 'rohit baheti'. You both seem to be obsessed with IIMK and you both try to pass off falsehoods like McKinsey visited that campus this year for the first time. As I mentioned in a comment above, Google clearly reveals their first McKinsey hire was in 2007 and that hire is now a Partner. So IIMK doesn't require me or anyone to 'tell the world that Mckinsey started visiting IIMK' because that's been the case for over a decade. So keep trolling IIMK. It's up to folks from IIMK to respond to you. But you - and all the boys from FMS - have not proven anything in this article above wrong. FMS says they have an offer from McK but no one has come out with what role.

11 Mar 2019, 11.06 PM |

Campus Insight

Rahul Saini from FMS - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahul-saini-77a22b89/ Now it all makes sense. Haha do all of you FMS kids coordinate your comments on my article? Thanks - it increases viewership :-) Uttam, I don't think your friend Rahul got the memo regarding 'However, we as FMS students, do not believe in demeaning other institutions publicly.' He is bunking classes at FMS to go troll IIMK - he really is a shining example of FMS. He obviously made up his story of his 'ex gf' at IIMK. What an embarassment for FMS.

12 Mar 2019, 12.03 AM |

Campus Insight

Correction - Rahul has graduated from FMS so is busy trolling other campuses during his free time in office. He's been trolling other campuses for a very long time - https://www.quora.com/profile/Rahul-Saini-143

12 Mar 2019, 12.30 AM |

Uttam Gulshan

Then what are you so scared of that you have not yet revealed your true identity?

12 Mar 2019, 03.26 AM |

Uttam Gulshan

Go along. You are going to go very far in your career. I hope you all the best and get well soon.

12 Mar 2019, 03.33 AM |

Campus Insight

Uttam on the topic of defamation, the unfortunate truth is that your alumnus Rahul Saini from the 2015 batch does far more damage to the reputation of FMS with his public trolling on this and other forums, than anything anyone like me says. He goes against the very commendable approach you have mentioned that FMS students will not say bad things about another institute. Rahul Saini has been doing that for years on this platform and Quora. Stunning to see how consistently he has been trolling one institute in particular - IIMK. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahul-saini-77a22b89/ https://www.quora.com/profile/Rahul-Saini-143 https://m.facebook.com/people/Rahul-Saini/1710343834

12 Mar 2019, 04.22 PM |

Rahul Saini

Ha Ha.. No You are wrong.. I am Rahul Saini from Stanford working as an advisor in Fed bank. Kuch bhi! Ha Ha.. This lady/Lada is damn funny.. "Campus Insights" As if the only insights you bring on table is where does MBB really visit LOL. Funnier part is the way this lady/lada goes on googling about Rahul Saini and pastes links of the poor guy here! It is so damn funny.. Is that your research? Damn, The way you found the Rahul saini guy I must say you would go to your seniors with a lot of hard work doing research on some FMCG client only to find the client is a Pharma player. LOL I can almost imagine you working like that.. You are amazing!! and your name "Campus Insights" Haaah!

22 Mar 2019, 03.57 PM |

Rahul Saini

Damn.. You are one stubborn lady/lada...I showed you reports from 2010/12/13/14/15 to show that MC Kinsey had a "no show" there. I am b1eginning to think that i was right.. This lady/lada is probably from IIM K working in some coromandel fertilizers or vguard and writing one whole article to proclaim MBB started visiting IIM K along with others too. Can you tell me where are the partners from IIM K in Mckinsey is mckinsey has been visitng K all along from 2007? I don't see any there. Where are they? Do you mean K folks have been doing so bad that they were kicked out in between? why is there only a single campus hired partner from IIM K?

22 Mar 2019, 04.03 PM |

Rahul Saini

*Correction* Rahul Saini graduated from Stanford and is now the president of Fed bank NY. Campus insight did a deep research and found his profile too. Really commendable research.

22 Mar 2019, 04.06 PM |

Rahul Saini

Haaaah! Wow!! You forgot my insta profile. Also please read my book on Amazon: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22888031-just-for-you Book by rahul Saini LOL

22 Mar 2019, 04.10 PM |